[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="designer-"]Kinect lacks the ability to read you while sitting.. Thats it key missing featureNohtnym

It has been confirmed forza 3 works only if you stand up. Which doesn't make any sense if kinect has "amazing recognition" like MS implies and lemmings say.

"I asked one of the two members of Forza development studio Turn 10 if I could play their demo sitting down. They said I could not, that it was "optimized for standing."

http://kotaku.com/5565777/xbox-kinect-does-not-play-well-with-couch-potatoes

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

ACTUALLY gamestop being such a big corporation has their own refurbishment facilities...so No microsoft has no control of gamespot refurbed units.

and wait wait..did you just say the evidence that microsoft controls gamespot pricing on gamestop refurbed units is because they dropped it 50 dollars and gamestop dropped it 10?.......what?! You do know gamestop is one of the worst places to trade stuff in right? with some of the most questionable video game pricing and practices in the game sales part of the industry right?

then pricing the refurb 10 dollars lower is not indicitive of anything on microsofts end specially since your wrong Gamestop as I said is a big enough corperation they have their own refurbishment facilities.

Sonwhy

Well if they have their own refurbrishment facilites like you say then I guess they may price the used consoles like they want but with MS having so many used consoles it just doesn't make much since for MS to not sell them to GS. Just too much money to make.

Also, it doesn't really matter because nobody is going to buy a used 360 at that price when they can buy a new one for $10. The price will come down in a month or two......I will bet my house on it.

[QUOTE="aia89"][QUOTE="dRuGGeRnaUt"] Seriously, in every single xbox topic guy shows up bashing MS.. I smell troll... And the disc's getting scratched because you move your xbox is NOT a problem. Same would happen if you moved your computer, or home DVD player, yet for some reason no one complains about that... why? BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW NOT TO MOVE THEM WHILE THEY ARE PLAYING! hehe And seriously, you can come up with better reasons than this to hate on MS... or *GASP* you could go play your PS3..dRuGGeRnaUt

Kinect lacks the ability to read you while sitting.. Thats it key missing featuredesigner-

I like how you keep countering the so called "haters" ' arguments with something that has nothing to do with what we're saying. "throwing the console out of the car" "bumping it against the wall" "flinging the console around" these are the arguments you are using to prove that TC and the others are wrong. I mean, seriously?

aia89

Explains why MS did not mention sales at their E3 conference :P

SwagSurf

[QUOTE="93soccer"]

You had a 360? :?
And did MS already announce Kinect title prices because I didn't even know they PRICED Kinect iteself.

Ohhhh, I see what your trying to do 0.o

BTW, you claim MS said they are alternating Gears/Halo every year?

Isn't that what Sony does as well?

2007- Uncharted
2008-LBP
2009- Killzone 2
2009- Uncharted 2
2010- LBP 2
2011- Killzone 3
??? :?

ermacness

[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

No it is.....but can you sit there and tell me you would prefer playing Forza on Kinect over a wheel or gamepad? .....You can almost guarantee the games I listed will be better with Move over the gamepad.

goblaa

If you're using move for a shooter online, you're going to pwn anyone still using tank-like dual analog.

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

Does it really matter? We're arguing a mere $10-$20 for two players to play Move vs Kinect. Let's argue the fact that you can actually play hardcore games with Move and not Kinect. Resident Evil 5, Killzone 3, MLB The Show, SOCOM 4.....cmon now, isn't it about the games? If people want either of these they're gonna buy them no matter the price. (See: foolish people buying the new 360 when they already own a 360)

Uptown

So Forza 3 isn't a hardcore game now?

No it is.....but can you sit there and tell me you would prefer playing Forza on Kinect over a wheel or gamepad? .....You can almost guarantee the games I listed will be better with Move over the gamepad.