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#1 ghaleon0721
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[QUOTE="Kaosed"][QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]

Are you Lems a little mad about paying $179 for a 120 gig HD?

Xbox 360 Prem $400 + 120 gig hard drive $180 =$580= Milkage !!!!!!

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and still the ps3 is more expensive



"Kaosed fades back. He shoots. And that's the ballgame!"
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If we are going to start comparing prices, we also need to compare features. So lets do this right...Xbox 360 $400 + 120GB Hard Drive $180 + Xbox Live Subscription $50 + HD DVD Player $200 = $830 PS3 = $600 Plus you don't have to continually pay for your online subscription every year. And because the HD can be replaced with virtually any laptop HD, the storage capacity is virtually limitless and will always be cheap to upgrade.
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#2 ghaleon0721
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Oblivion is less than half of a DVD 9 sorry and it's the same game on the PC where space is not an issue.  What takes up the most space with games is voice and fmv. Minus all that voice acting in Oblivion it was probably 2 gigs. Yes GTa is 2 gigs

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How could Oblivion be only 2 gigs when it installs 4 1/2 gigs to the PS3 hard drive
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#3 ghaleon0721
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[QUOTE="ghaleon0721"]You can spin this however you want, but at the end of the day, it breaks down like this The PS3 has its hurdles for developers. A "Hurdle" is an obstacle that can be overcome. The 360 has limitations in terms of disc and hard drive space. A "limitation" prevents the developers from doing what they want to do. You can try to spin it, or pick words out here and there, or try to say that they are talking about BOTH consoles, but that's all bunk. Bottom line, a small disk and no hard drive are keeping GTA 4 from being what it SHOULD be. Perioddstryr13

it is said the best in this post

Thanks bud, I do what can
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#4 ghaleon0721
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="skbmassive"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="skbmassive"]

OPM How has team found cross developing for PS3 and Xbox?

DH It's a challenge

 

OPM on Ps3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard drive and, with blue ray, you've got plenty of storage, whereas on xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a HDD and you're working with a DVD format. Does that create limitations?

 

DH: Yep to be honest with you we haven't solved all those riddles yet. Both of them have enormous challenges. Again, that's been an advantage of having the guys at SD who are freakishly clever and full time dedicated to us, but we're not there with either (format) yet. There are problems on both. We'll get there with both, but both have their own particular pleasures and pains.

You realize how some people leave it at "yep" as if that is how he answered the question. Also this is just a PR guy he has nothing to do with the development.

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YES but the extra space helps then you have a hard drive to do the rest. it is not hard to figure that out. blu-ray the space they need goes to the harddrive then though the cell then on the screen you go. there 360 the need to fit the compression to fit on a dvd9 (last grandtheft took up the whole dvd now they have to do it again these time with more info much harder to do) after there trying to go straight to the screen because no hard drive. witch one do you think will be harder to figure out. the ps 3 wins there.

Last gen the Ps2 did not have a hard drive. Why didn't you guys have these kind of topics then?

yes but that was last gen this time you have double the infomation to fit on the same dvd9 that does not have a harddrive. how much compression does it need to to this alot. if they stuck with the ps 3 only they would of spent more time develop the game rather spending the time to compress all the data. it takes time to compress. which one of this can go there and this goes here ect. i can see this as like oblivion were most of the forts, buildings, caves all look the same.

Like i said GTA vice city was 2 gigs so why would you expect it to jump to 20 gigs or something? Oblivion used less than half of a DVD9 and GTA is not a game with a ton of fmv so I see space as a non issue.

How can space be a "non-issue". Rockstar just said it IS an issue
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#6 ghaleon0721
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You can spin this however you want, but at the end of the day, it breaks down like this The PS3 has its hurdles for developers. A "Hurdle" is an obstacle that can be overcome. The 360 has limitations in terms of disc and hard drive space. A "limitation" prevents the developers from doing what they want to do. You can try to spin it, or pick words out here and there, or try to say that they are talking about BOTH consoles, but that's all bunk. Bottom line, a small disk and no hard drive are keeping GTA 4 from being what it SHOULD be. Period
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#7 ghaleon0721
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This is exactly why the PS3 is the better system. Now we have actual testimony from an expert in the industry. When games are built for the "lowest common denominator", those of us with the superior console have to suffer. Unfortunately, Microsoft did a FANTASTIC job with their 1 year head start and created an install base that most developers cannot afford to ignore. Until that install base either converts, or stops buying games, we are stuck. The 360 is going to be the bench mark for a while, which renders all of the PS3's superior power useless. It is my sincere hope that more developers like Square and Kojima, start putting in the effort to make the BEST possible game and let it go to whatever console allows them the most freedom to create the game they want. Both MGS4 and FF13 are being built from the ground up for the PS3 and will not be playable on the MS console. So the PS3's only advantage lies in the high-end, heavy hitter games. Until more of those come out to grow the Sony install base and at least limit the 360 install base, we are stuck in a rut. We are stuck in a world where superior gaming is possible, but it is not available because 10 million people decided they liked the shiny pictures they saw in gamestop and couldn't wait a year for something really good to come out.
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#8 ghaleon0721
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I had a hard time finding mine too. Gamestop's website lets you check store availability, that's how I found mine. When I got there, they had one left. I don't know why its so hard to find. Even if the stores don't have it, you should be able to get it online through gamestop. I'll sell you mine for $50
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#9 ghaleon0721
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All this fretting about losing exclusives is complete nonsense. The only reason its news is because 360 fanboys make it news. And the only reason that they make it news is because they are lashing out after being completely dominated by the PS2 for so many years. None of this is surprising either. Since Sony, (correctly) does not pay for exclusives. That keeps costs down for us, the consumers. You can't expect someone like Capcom to own a franchise that they know will sell (like DMC) and not port it over to a console with 10 million users. That is just silly. I still believe that the PS3 will eclipse the 360 very quickly in terms of its install base. Games will come out that utilize and a capitalize the PS3's superior processing power and disc capacity, thereby making the 360 look "last-gen". You heard it here first. There will be a new Xbox approximately halfway through the PS3's life-cycle
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#10 ghaleon0721
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There is a reason that game consoles are shipped ready to play games right out of the box. There is a reason that the hardware and operating system is standard and equal in every single console in the world. It is to avoid problems like this, where some snafu or conflict with additional software or periphereals interferes with the basic and primary functionality of the system (ie, play games) Exactly why did you decide to "geek-out" your PS3? Just play the damn thing. I suggest you uninstall whatever you put on there and try to restore your PS3. You may never get your data back, but at least you've learned a valuable lesson.