The 360's advantage is that the Core can match the Wii in price, it has all NEXT GEN games and the Premium models can match the PS3 features, with all its games + Halo, for hundreds less. Do you see why it's positioned so well? Anyone who believes that the 360 is the better deal because of the lower price needs a head x-ray. There are so many periphereals and add-on services to buy that it's ridiculous. I remember the thread on here about the guy who spent $200 on services and periphereals just to play lost planet. Online play, a 60GB hard drive, blu-ray player, etc, all come straight out of the box with the PS3. If you try to match the Xbox 360 feature for feature with the PS3, you'll spend enough money on extras to make the prices almost equal.
[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"] now that's just stupid. SOFTWARE is what sales a system. Funny, I remember SSX, two Zelda Games, Mario 64, Perfect Dark, and many other exclusive, high-profile, software titles appearing on the LOSING system. Sony won the PS1 vs N64 war with hardware, not software.
[QUOTE="KraftForgotten"]It all comes down to who has the better system... who picked the right choice. eclipsed4utoo
that has nothing to do with third party exclusives. SALES are the only thing that matters to third party developers/publishers. YYYEEEEESSSSS. Sales are what matter. So using that logic, there should be SCADS of Xbox 360 exclusives because right now there are about 4 to 5 million more 360's than there are PS3's. But wait.......there aren't scads of 360 exclusives. So what does that mean??? It means that teh 3rd party developers BELIEVE in the future staying power of the PS3
IF you are right and the war will be decided by software, then how is the 360 at an advantage? What exclusives does it have? Halo is the only big one that comes to mind. Right now, today, if you compare multi-platform games across both systems, usually the 360 is the better version, but that is because it came out first. Ports are never perfect. Grandia 2 looked alot better on the dreamcast than it did on the PS2, and where is the Dreamcast now?
It's not the fact that they are losing exclusives, it's the fact of paying $600 for a system just to play a game on that is now available on a cheaper system with not much difference between the two.hunter8man
I repeat...Online..community...Innovation...integration...longevity. This generation's console war will be decided by hardware, not software.
[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"] This is why the 360 gets 3rd party exclusives like Bioshock and Mass Effect and is what almost guarantees Final Fantasy and MGS are multiplatform. Sorry bud, but you're dead wrong. I think that the one thing that alot of people seem to forget is that Sony has a STRANGLEHOLD on the japanese gaming market. That means that games from Japanese developers such as Final Fantasy and MGS will be designed with the PS3 in mind. Also, the japanese dominance that sony has will ensure its long-term survival.
I think that the gaming community has to embrace the idea that the console gaming landscape has changed. It is a completely different animal now that it used to be. Look at the previous generations of console wars. During the PS2 vs Xbox days, exclusives and a large library of games are what drove Sony's dominance. Prior to that, Sony dominated the PS1 vs N64 battle by creating a system that used CD's instead of cartridges and allowed developers more flexibility and virtually limitless capacity to make games. Now there is a new battle. Both systems use discs as the media so there is really no advantage, that is until PS3 games start pushing the capacity limits of the Blu-Ray disc. Xbox 360 came first and undercut Sony's strategy of exclusive games. So what matters now? Online? Community? Innovation? Integration? Longevity? Sony has all those things in spades. Online is free, Home is coming, the sixaxis is changing the way we play, and now we have one machine for blu-ray, internet, photos, videos, and games that Sony is committed to supporting for the next ten years. Exclusives are NOT going to win this generation's console war
Frankly, I think the problem is pride. There was a time when PS2 owners could look down upon the xbox gamers of the world and laugh. Sure the xbox had better graphics, a hard drive, and xbox live. But the PS2 had the games. It had the killer apps that were just too good to give up. Also, I think alot of PS3 gamers have grown weary of reading reviews of PS3 games and hearing that they don't measure up to their Xbox 360 counterparts. I believe that will go away over time. Right now alot of the multi-platform games originated as Xbox 360 games and then were ported to the PS3. It is to be expected that the ports would not be perfect. Seriously, think back, how many glitchy dreamcast games did the PS2 get in its early days? Finally, I think that there may be some fear. Exclusive "killer apps" are what sold consoles, which drove the development of further exclusive "killer apps". If you lose the exclusives, it slows the sale of consoles, which slows the developers support for further games. So based on that, PS3 owners have something to be worried about. They don't want their 600 dollar machines to end up like the game cube (great system, few exclusives, low sales, less developer support). But there is no need to worry. Until the Xbox starts locking up exclusives of their own, the multi-platform culture of gaming is neither good nor bad for Sony.
I see the forums this morning are bursting with threads related "exclusive" games. No doubt this has stemmed from the news that DMC 4 will appear on the Xbox 360. Alot of Sony fans seem to be in a huff, but I don't understand why. YOU'RE STILL GETTING THE GAME! So what if it appears on another console. You still get to enjoy a great game. Sony has said that they will not pay for exclusives. They never have, and they never will. They only had so many exclusives in the past because they had such a dominant hold on the console market. PS2's were outselling Gamecubes and Xbox's exponentially. So if you were going to make a game that was designed to have the highest profit potential, the PS2 was your "go to" system. It makes sense that the same logic applies here. There are four or five times as many Xbox 360's out there than PS3's. So if you are going to get your game to the most gamers, then you should go for the Xbox 360. I think the fact that these games are ALSO coming to the PS3 is a testament to developers belief in the longterm viability of the system. It is my opinion that the 360 does not have the same longterm staying power that the PS3 has. Therefore, as the 360's lifecycle comes to a close, you will begin to see more PS3 exclusives. I can understand PS3 owners being upset if they learned that one of these games that was supposed to be a Sony Exclusive suddenly became a Microsoft Exclusive. But that has not happened. NOTHING has been taken from the PS3. So why all the whining?
I still don't understand the point of this thread. "Get a PS3 now or wait?" Wait for what?? A price drop? Not likely A good game? Well the PS3 has represented almost every major gaming genre with at least one great game. Sure there' s a lot of junk out there but there is certainly enough great stuff to keep you busy until more great stuff comes out. So what are you waiting for? It sounds like the original poster is struggling with learning the value of a dollar. Perhaps he's just saved up the money after months of hard work and is reluctant to part with it for something he doesn't fully understand. Man would that suck to mow lawns and deliver newspapers for 8 months and then blow it all on a gaming system that you don't like. Unfortunately, waiting isn't going to help that situation at all. And frankly, if that is the problem, asking if you should by a PS3 on a PS3 Forum is a stupid idea. I say wait and see if after a while you still want it. Wait and see if that "Buy" impulse goes away. Don't worry, the PS3 isn't going anywhere.
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