It is a wonder, platform games appeal to the younger gamer, im surprised there isnt a lot.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]

it all just opinion we just do not agree on what is good. you favor a splosion man which i own a found to be mediocre at best and i just played super meatboy on y3.com for free. its cool but not the best platformer I played this gen. lbp and smg make it look like the 8 bit game it is. and it FREE how much did you pay for it?

Wiimotefan

So I read over a few of your posts in this thread, including this one of course. Would it be safe for me to assume that gameplay is probably your lowest priority when judging a games quality?

[QUOTE="Funconsole"]

[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]

i appreciate all three systems. i should since I own a wii, 360, and ps3. i'm currently at a friend's house watching him play ratchet and clank, and it suddenly struck me that the 360 doesn't have any platforming franchises. banjo nuts and bolts isn't really a platformer, so we'll exclude this game. my question is, why don't 360 owners demand platforming experiences? i find it a little troubling that the 360 doesn't offer this genre of gaming.

godsendBLISS

You really think people are gonna believe this? If you're at a friend's house like you claim, shouldn't you be playing with him instead of posting a thread on SW bashing the 360?

Besides there are quite a few outstanding ones on XBLA including:

Super Meat Boy

Limbo

Splosion Man

Shadow Complex

^And these are just off the top of my head

these aer my FULL DISC BASED RETAIL GAMES:

sly cooper HD1

Ratchet and clank tod

Sly cooper HD 2

Little big planet 1

Sly cooper HD 3

Ratchet and Clank ACit

Little big planet 2

thats 7 disc based games

my psn games I own

Splosion Man

Ratchet and Clank QfB

Monsters Styole my princess

pixel junk eden

just to name a few.

thats a lot more than you named

btw wikipedia defined lbp the game you refuse to acknowledge as a platformer they call it a platformer.

it all just opinion we just do not agree on what is good. you favor a splosion man which i own a found to be mediocre at best and i just played super meatboy on y3.com for free. its cool but not the best platformer I played this gen. lbp and smg make it look like the 8 bit game it is. and it FREE how much did you pay for it?

[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]

i appreciate all three systems. i should since I own a wii, 360, and ps3. i'm currently at a friend's house watching him play ratchet and clank, and it suddenly struck me that the 360 doesn't have any platforming franchises. banjo nuts and bolts isn't really a platformer, so we'll exclude this game. my question is, why don't 360 owners demand platforming experiences? i find it a little troubling that the 360 doesn't offer this genre of gaming.

Funconsole

You really think people are gonna believe this? If you're at a friend's house like you claim, shouldn't you be playing with him instead of posting a thread on SW bashing the 360?

Besides there are quite a few outstanding ones on XBLA including:

Super Meat Boy

Limbo

Splosion Man

Shadow Complex

^And these are just off the top of my head

these aer my FULL DISC BASED RETAIL GAMES:

sly cooper HD1

Ratchet and clank tod

Sly cooper HD 2

Little big planet 1

Sly cooper HD 3

Ratchet and Clank ACit

Little big planet 2

thats 7 disc based games

my psn games I own

Splosion Man

Ratchet and Clank QfB

Monsters Styole my princess

pixel junk eden

just to name a few.

thats a lot more than you named

btw wikipedia defined lbp the game you refuse to acknowledge as a platformer they call it a platformer.

[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]

[QUOTE="SHR3DD3D"]

He's mad that Black Ops is the best-selling PS3 game EVER.

:P

xsatyr86

Your question gets answered then you change the basis of your question. This whole thread is complete ownage.

the second part of my question asks why don't 360 owners care. the reason 360 owners don't care is because they feel that the 360 doesn't need platformers. if u want a platformer, buy a wii. also, because microsoft has shifted it's focus from last gen. it has become the "pop system" of gaming. it's not an insult, but it's true. since the "pop culture" demands militarey style shooters, and mega violence, that what the 360 gets, whereas sony and ninty have these games too, but add a little more variety to their arrays. i appreciate and like all 3 systems, however it would be nice to have a banjo or conker on the 360. do u realize how divine that would be?

[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"][QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]i going to say this one last time, I AM A 360 OWNER, my gamertag is blissFOREVER. check it out. i'm not a cow, though my psn id is uberbliss, check that out to. i game man, no fanboyism, just the real.

SHR3DD3D

He's mad that Black Ops is the best-selling PS3 game EVER.

:P

[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm not sure about you discrediting games as I haven't read the entire thread, but yes I will discredit Ratchet and LBP in terms of platforming. LBP is a unique game with cool community features and the whole play, create, share gamepaly really took off. As a pure platormer? No, it would be garbage. Same with Ratchet. I enjoy the Ratchet games quite a bit. But again, the fun factor I got from the Ratchet series had little to do with its platforming elements.

You can reference MC and GR all you like, but I doubt you'll find many (if any) reviews that give glowing praise to the platforming mechanics in those games. They are fun games that happen to have platforming in them. That doesn't make them strong platformers.

As for your Gears reference, I have no idea what overall file size has to do with quality game design. If a platformer is great then it is great. End of story. It doesnt need to be 8 gigs minimum printed on a disc and have a huge marketing campaign to get my appreciation.

sandbox3d

Systems in ma sig. Dont see what it has to do with anything, especially since I'm not siding with any system here lol.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your last post, but you made it seem as if a game having a smaller file size has something to do with overall quality. If not, then what do you mean by that exactly?

About 90% on exclusives and 10% on multiplats

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]

[QUOTE="Karnage108"]

Exactly, and it's even worse when the TC is trying to discredit games like Super Meat Boy and Limbo which better represent the platformer genre than either of those ps3 games. All because they aren't on a disc :lol:

edit: actually, they ARE on disc http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/09/limbo-trials-hd-and-splosion-man-coming-to-retail-in-xbla-tripl/

sandbox3d

I'm not sure about you discrediting games as I haven't read the entire thread, but yes I will discredit Ratchet and LBP in terms of platforming. LBP is a unique game with cool community features and the whole play, create, share gamepaly really took off. As a pure platormer? No, it would be garbage. Same with Ratchet. I enjoy the Ratchet games quite a bit. But again, the fun factor I got from the Ratchet series had little to do with its platforming elements.

You can reference MC and GR all you like, but I doubt you'll find many (if any) reviews that give glowing praise to the platforming mechanics in those games. They are fun games that happen to have platforming in them. That doesn't make them strong platformers.

As for your Gears reference, I have no idea what overall file size has to do with quality game design. If a platformer is great then it is great. End of story. It doesnt need to be 8 gigs minimum printed on a disc and have a huge marketing campaign to get my appreciation.