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#1 greensand24
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[QUOTE="greensand24"]Scroll down to point 5 http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/rage/preview/rage-five-very-important-things-weve-learned-from-the-opening-two-hours/a-20110801164525543050/g-2007080612136668042 I guess you can add Id to Crytek as the two multiplat devs that IMO have shown up Sony first party studios. All that talk about how game X couldn't be done on the Xbox 360 and look what we have here: Another multiplat title that will be crowned graphics king on consoles found on the 360. That means by the end of the year the 360 will have the top 4 console games 1. Rage (360) 2. Crysis 2 (360) 3. Gears of War 3 4. Forza 4 As I said in the other thread there is nothing IMO coming out on PS3 that can match these games. Also that article is only reinforcing my theory from the other thread.BigBoss154

But...Rage and Crysis 2 are on the PS3. They play exactly the same.

Crysis 2 is best on the 360 of the two consoles. That's already been determined. As for rage ogf course it will play the same on ps3 with POP UP.
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#2 greensand24
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this page cant be found when i follow your link :S

And tbh stop baiting cows its not gonna end well.

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I fixed the link. sorry about that.
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#3 greensand24
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You should expect some to RAGE at you for this. :P

Anyway, the game is gonna Rock on all systems sooo, just sayin.

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You gotta admit though that things have been a bit rough lately for the ps3. Of course the casual public won't care but a graphics whore like myself jumps all over stuff like this
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Scroll down to point 5 http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/rage/preview/rage-five-very-important-things-weve-learned-from-the-opening-two-hours/a-20110801164525543050/g-2007080612136668042 I guess you can add Id to Crytek as the two multiplat devs that IMO have shown up Sony first party studios. All that talk about how game X couldn't be done on the Xbox 360 and look what we have here: Another multiplat title that will be crowned graphics king on consoles found on the 360. That means by the end of the year the 360 will have the top 4 console games 1. Rage (360) 2. Crysis 2 (360) 3. Gears of War 3 4. Forza 4 As I said in the other thread there is nothing IMO coming out on PS3 that can match these games. Also that article is only reinforcing my theory from the other thread.
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#5 greensand24
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then are 360 developers just incompetent? why have the majority of the best looking console games been ps3 exclusives and not 360 exclusives?

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I'm not saying that at all but Sony 1st party studios are better in development. Either that or they put in more blood, sweat and tears effort. But also you have to understand that Sony advocates for this while MS cares little about graphics and are more focused on that mighty green dollar. IMO for MS they don't care as much but if it does look good it's just the cherry on top.That's why I said if you had the same developers and possibly an addition in business focus on MS's end you would see slightly better results. I believe this to be the case simply because IMO the 360 hardware is slightly better than the ps3's because of its symmetrical architecture.
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#6 greensand24
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Not even gonna read that. If that were true 360 exclusives would look on par or better then PS3 exclusives. The 360 is easier to dev for, it's been out longer and the PS3 has better looking games. That pretty much proves the PS3 is more powerfull or at least a more capable system when pushed to the limit. It's just got more, guaranteed Hard Drive in every unit, Blu Ray disc that can hold like 50gigs of content, and an amazing processor that pushed can do some remarkable things for how old the hardare is. JohnDead80
Blu ray has nothing to do with graphics and I'm not saying the ps3 doesn't have good looking games. Your comment that ps3 has better looking games is completely subjective and opinion based so please don't try to state as fact. I already listed three games that IMO trump ps3 games so whatever I guess.
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....If you had the same developers work from the ground up and take full advantage of the 360 hardware. I have no doubt now after seeing games like Forza 4, Gears 3 and Crysis 2. Forza 4 is only going to add salt to the wound (flop) of GT5. The ps3 IMO is powerful but is basically a bottleneck and just struggles. I mean why do you think GT5 was delayed so many times. And even when it was released the game was still sub-par in some spots graphically. IMO the biggest flop and disappointment of this gen by far. Gears 3 looks great in SP and MP while Uncharted 3 looks good but not great in multiplayer and don't say it's just the beta because you see the same thing in uc2. UC2 mp doesn't look like the sp in terms of graphics The ps3 version of Crysis 2 looks okay but has noticeably worse frame rate issues and just this bad coating of vaseline blur that takes away from the beauty of Crysis 2. For cryin' out loud the resolution in the ps3 version is 1024x720 which is bad. And the 360 version? Well IMO it's the best looking console game right now. IMO you cows who deny it have either been playing the ps3 version (very blurry) or haven't played the game at all. The framerate issues are exaggerated (mostly by cows from what I see) and for those of you saying it has low-rez textures and aliasing issues clearly haven't played the game. The game is just absolutely visually stunning on the 360. Of course the pc version rules all but what Crytek did on the 360 is amazing! If kz3 was on the 360 you wouldn't have the same bad-looking textures that are in kz3 now and the blur effect and nasty pixel crawling and aliasing issues you see in the game would be gone if it were on the 360; As a matter of fact you wouldn't even have to handicap yourself with MLAA because quite frankly the 360 doesn't need it. But low and behold if Guerilla did choose to use MLAA on the 360 the 360 would have the superior MLAA method!! Check out this link http://www.computerandvideogames.com/309595/xbox-360-improved-with-ps3-only-graphics-feature/ As beautiful looking as uc2 is you wouldn't see some of the poor looking aliasing and texture issues in uc2 that also gives the game a rough grainy look in some spots. Also those ugly looking eyes on the character models during cutscenes that make them look like zombies would be gone. IMO It would look cleaner on the 360 The same thing could be said about God of War 3 which is one of the most graphically inconsistent looking games of all time. A lots of aliasing issues with poor textures. And God of War 3 is as linear as they come but still managed to have some rough looking spots. yes MLAA is used but even in God of War 3 I saw numerous jaggies. Again it would look cleaner on the 360 especially if 360 MLAA was used. It's my observation and conclusion that as this gen nears to a close it is the ps3 hardware that is being exposed for its weaknesses while the 360 continues to impress. IMO 256mb Vram with split memory arcitecture makes things incredibly difficult and invites a lot of problems. The cell can only do so much. Instead of the cell actually pushing the hardware it's basically trying to solve handicap issues in the hardware which makes the cell almost useless because that is not what it was intended to do. Maybe this will change with the ps4. The real capper for me though are the comments made by Carmack when he made some interesting comments about the ps3 vs. 360 http://www.qj.net/ps3/news/carmack-says-ps3-is-better-than-anything-except-xbox-360.html Basically the moral of the story is that IMO the 360 is more better equipped to pump out graphics and performance. This might not have been the case early on this gen but like I said as this gen nears to a close we are actually seeing the reverse go into effect and the evidence can be seen in these games: Forza 4 Gears 3 Crysis 2 (360) I mean all three of these games look spectacular and I see nothing coming out on the ps3 (exclusive or multiplat) in the near future that looks better than any of these three games. That's just my opinion based on videos I've seen. ....plus most of the multiplats which IMO will continue to look and play better on the 360. Sure the PS3 has its fair share of winners but in all honesty you can pretty much count them on all your toes and fingers. Yes the two consoles are pretty much equal but I just think that because of the 360's superior GPU, unified memory,edram, cores and general ease of development that it puts the 360 slightly over the top compared to the Ps3.
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#8 greensand24
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According to the spreadsheet that keeps track you're wrong. It will be almost a year since a new 360 exclusive has come out which is downright pathetic. Even looking at the arcade this year you can see MS slipping due to going casual. It's sad really. Heil68
What's sad is that right now I'm enjoying Bastion and other games like Trenched and more to come. What have you been playing right now on the ps3 here in the summer? Yup more delusion folks.
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]charlesdarwin55
The 360 version of Crysis 2 BLOWS away all of the ps3 exclusives and is doing more in terms of technical graphics that any ps3 exclusive could only dream of. Lol the lighting alone in Crysis 2 makes the ps3 exclusives look like child's play.
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#10 greensand24
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I just joined up and I keep hearing cows (lol a cow...okay) talking about how 360 owners have no games. It's really the other way around. By the way the 360 has Halo which by itself blows all of the ps3 exclusives combined out of the water. The 360 overall just has a better library of games. Xbox Live Arcade blows the hack-infested PSN out the water and practically all of the multiplat games play and look better on the 360. The ones that are better on the ps3 you can count on all of your fingers and toes lol. You guys talked about how the 360 couldn't compete with the ps3 in terms of graphics yet low and behold the best looking console game right now is the 360 version of crysis 2 which makes you guys look pretty bad. If I was a cow talking that crap I would be ashamed to even speak in a graphics debate because I would feel like ....well lets just say I wouldn't feel too bright lol. 1. The 360 has better and more exclusives 2. The 360 has better looking and playing multiplats 3. Xbox Live and Xbox Live Arcade makes psn look like a joke (and I'm being nice....I really wanted to say something else) 4. The 360 has the better controller Lol why would anyone buy a ps3? Oh yeah it's a good blu-ray player lol By the way before I go on I want to elaborate on points 1. and 3. Points 1. and 3. I'm not gonna list them all but you guys know that if you consider ALL of the Kinect and Xbox Live Arcade games then the 360 catalogue blows the ps3 out the water and you know it. Problem? You got a problem with Kinect games? I've had more fun with Kinect Sports and Dance Central alone than all of the ps3 exclusives. The only fun series on the ps3 is the God of War and uncharted series. The rest is garbage. Again problem? If a game provides fun for me isn't that what counts? Who cares if it's a Kinect game or not? Cows love to criticize Kinect because they know that with Kinect the 360 has more exclusives than the ps3. ....and good lord do I even need to mention Xbox Live Arcade vs. PSN? Do I? Xbox Live Arcade OBLITERATES psn. But you cows already knew that which is why you don't like to talk about these games. Oh what was that? They don't count here at SW? Yeah okay I'll be sure to mention that to the millions of consumers in the real world when I see a couple of them at Gamestop lol. But lets talk about Xbox Live Arcade shall we since the "360 has no games". The last time I checked the 360 has the summer of arcade games as well as the spring and block party arcade games. What the heck does the psn offer lol. Lol it's the ps3 that has no games and you cows know it. How can the ps3 even compete when 360 owners have the summer arcade games and other cool games to look forward to every year? Starting in June I've been playing Trenched, Ms. Splosion Man, and oh there's this game called Bastion that just came out which just like Ms. Splosion man and Trenched is doing well on Metacritic. Meanwhile what have you cows been playing lately that just came out on ps3? Oh that's right.... NOTHING! So how you gonna spin this? Oh I know...."So what they'll be on psn next year" Really? Even if that were true can you play them on the ps3 now? What was that? Yeah I thought so...YOU CAN'T. Meaning 360 owners are playing games while you cows moo and twiddle your thumbs and waste your time deluding yourselves about something crazy like how the cell makes the ps3 better than the PC lol. Also look at the upcoming exclusives for the 360 Crimson Alliance Gears of war 3 Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet Halo: Anniversary edition Forza 4 Toy Soldiers Orcs must die Battleblock Theater Don't know about these games? Look'em up lol. Face it cows the 360 is a pure gaming machine through and through. The ps3 is decent but can't compete. You're lucky it plays blu-ray otherwise people wouldn't even give it a second thought. I'm gonna finish up by ending with this: Including ALL GAMES both retail (Kinect included) and the Arcade games the 360 has more games to play and OVERALL has a higher scoring library than the ps3 without question. Factor in the multiplats that play and look better on the 360 and then you really wonder why in the world anyone would pick up a ps3. IT'S THE PS3 THAT HAS NO GAMES!! HA HA you cows keep deluding yourselves in thinking it's the other way around. But keep telling yourself that because it's entertaining to read.