@gufberg @Damazig Greater management complexity in Rome 1? Lol, no. Each province was one city. There were 4 Rome factions. You only had one place per province you could do anything, not to mention no fleets, no retinue, no general/army/agent/legacy skill trees. Even in Europa Barbarorum or Rome Total Realism there wasn't more complexity.

It's still not okay that this is happening, btw.

@gcodegamer Probably, yes.

@foxbat_prime Partially.

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Trust me, I had no interest in seeing the Birri Birri or whatever the f they were called, those mountain dudes Rohan encountered on their way to Minas Tirith. It was bad enough he wasted 30 minutes with the Ents instead of putting the entire Shelob section of the book where it goes. Certain details did not need to be in the movie - in fact, most of them.

What did piss me off is that he entirely omitted what's his face in Minas Tirith, the guy that befriended Pippin (The guard guy). And pretty much omitted the entire romance between Faramir and Eowyn.

@foxbat_prime Because you're crying about something that's impossible to avoid - the book to film/game transition. Books are words. Lots of words.

Games and movies are not a lot of words. Furthermore, they have explicit artistic visions to them that you see with your eyes, instead of imaging them.

They can't be exactly the same as the books - it's impossible.

Did you want to see it take literally a year for Sam and Frodo to cross Mordor? Because that's what happened in the book. Or, did you want literally half of Return of the King to be the aftermath? The ring gets destroyed in the first 200 pages of ROTK. The entire rest of the book is nonsense bullshit like giving Sarumon weed, or the Battle of Bywater.

@spartanx169x @grenadehh I'd watch it. Would like to see the history of middle earth as a miniseries, too.

@spartanx169x @grenadehh Most importantly, LOTR is the sequel.

@spartanx169x @grenadehh Who's they?

The company in The Hobbit didn't know the ring happened to be exactly where they were going - mostly because Smeagol had it. Gandalf probably knew Smeagol chilled in those mountains, because he always knows things but doesn't want to believe them, plus I don't think they felt the time was appropriate to even attempt destroying it.

Also at that point in time, Sauron was just coming back to power. Mordor wasn't a volcanic wasteland let covered in Orcs, and the Wizard council was still a thing. Even Gondor was still almost holding on to it's power. The whole last movie is supposed to cover things from the appendices such as the battle with the Necromancer (Sauron). as well as the Battle of the Five Armies.

But, regardless, the Hobbit is a children's book and not meant to be about epic end of the world adventures.

@foxbat_prime @grenadehh So then quit crying that it "sh1ts all over Tolkien."

Tolkien's god damn children released all of his unreleased work, guess what, FOR MONEY.
Let me guess, they sh1t all over his corpse, right?