It's an area of conversation where I just have nothing to say -- I'm drawing a blank, not because of social awkwardness (is it okay to say this?) but because there's nothing worth actually saying.

in my case, its mostly social awkwardness ... ^^

^^

the core of the cristianic believe is the following ...

the cross is an unwrapped cube ... the cube is a symbol for the active, creating, sinful men on earth ... the cross is a symbol for the resting, non active, pure men on earth ...

the cross is made of row of 4 items and a colum of 3 items, row and colum crossing eachother and sharing one of the items together ...

for the christs, god is the process that chances one from the cube-being as wich we are born to the open-cross-being that we are ment to be ...

the only anwser to the question why people believe in relegion is, becasue their parents told them so ...

and thats why there isnt really much about to discuss, because its nothing substantial at all

what we think is relegion is in reality simply philosophy ... there are many different philosophys about life, yet their is only one subject as the 'life' itself ... and the goal of all philosophy is to proof itself meaningless in the end, this is teh ultimate goal ... the human mind is like a wall, everything you think of or believe in is projected on to that wall ... it is impossible to practically get behind that wall as it also forms the boarder of the minds existence ... but ... by recognizing the wall and realising the nature of the projections reflected onto it ... will let you leave this wall behind ... magicaly ... in the moment you fully realise / admit the existence of this wall, you are already at the other side ...

because their is always a difference between knowing something and doing something, the knowledge and experience wich is expressed in the paragraph above cannot be understood by simply putting them in understandable words ... thats why philosophy was and is always closly conected to math and geometry, because the geometric symbols wich are absed on math are the purest form of describing a thought ... the simplyer teh smynols teh clearer the analogy can be transmitted ... because math and geometry are the lowest common denominators that exist ...

whats the opposite term to 'individuals' .... 'environment'

jesus didnt exist as a real person ... its an analogy ... like mentioned, a similar book to the bible exist 'the bock of enoch' its older and basicly considered the blueprint for the bible, a similar Person like Jesus appears there, in fact, analogys to a Person like Jesus can be found in all non-monoteistic relegion or believes ... wich is also a sign that the tales about Jesus are ment to deal only with a specilised / willfuly selected part of the whole ...

also keep in mind that the bible consists of the testaments wich are basicly the same story written in four different versions ...

keep in mind that jesus is the son of a 'craftsman' in real life and mythological meaning ...

the point is, 'christ' is a title given to initated people. Cristus and Chrestos. its fair to believe that 2000 years ago a lot of 'circles' had send out 'christs' into the world in an attempt to reform the relegion and believe of that time ... basicly when the Romans came People saw their Chance to free themself from the burden the jewish relegion was to them at this time

if the cristianic believe we know today is a result of the combined effort of all of these 'circles' or simply the remains of an process of conflict and evolution, remains speculation

well, thats NOT the way you will get me back ... oh, wait

yeah, but not how you think ................. ^^

we just have to wait untill people are ready to see a worth in others and themself that isnt based on Money, look or Job ...

it seems really difficult or impossible for todays people to just see themself as the people they are, if oyu take away their jobs, their familis, their media and devices ... suddenly nothing is left of these people ... and yet everyone is pretending this is teh way is has to be ... see this cliff? lets all just run in this direction and have the time of our lives while doing so ...

even worth, if you take this all away from them, they suddenly cant see a way or even reason to live or survive anylonger ... so for them it means 'losing everything' ... famous quote: Abondon all hope , ye who enter here

T2 makes T1 look like a bad movie ...

but if you look at T2 there is nothing 'on top' of the movie itself, no patriotism, no propaganda, cops and corporations are exactly the mean and ruthless guys they are ... there is only this message about living independant and about 'world.peace' and artifical intelligents ... the 90's