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Hmm you're listing the disadvantages Sony had to over come and the advantages MS had, but thats not the full story, Sony launched their console off the back of a huge brand name in Playstation, think about that for a second, it was always going to be very tough for a similar console to compete with the Playstation brand. So yeah Xbox had a 4Q headstart...PS3 had the 100m existing PS2 owners!
marklarmer
The vast majority of those PS2 owners had no allegiance to Sony... It's not like Sony had 100m fanboys eager to buy the next PS no matter what. Of the 200m+ "next-gen" systems bought, the VAST majority made their choice based on some combination of price, availability, and actually comparing features/games... and not based on any kind of loyalty to a particular brand name. Being too impatient to wait another year when there was already a next gen console, or not wanting to take that $600 plunge for a PS3 when there were Wiis and 360s for $250-350are much bigger factors to most people than what the brandname on the box is... so yeah, the fact that PS3 has outsold 360 the pretty much the entirety of its life, despite those issues is a positive, and testament to the fact that it is actually a great console, with great games and features consumers are interested in.i'm going to just disagree with that, though its not hard seeing asthough you just made a load of generalizations with no evidence to back them up. If we take 2007 for example, the 360 obviously had price and games in its favour, it even had Halo 3 released that year, yet the PS3 still comfortably outsold it. you could argue people were buying the PS3 for games releasing in the near future, but what games? GT5? MGS4? Killzone 2? GOW3? how many people who brought a PS3 for those games would have done so because they enjoyed their previous installments on the PS1/2?Are you suggesting Japans console sales have nothing to do with brand loyalty? :|
brand loyalty in gaming isn't just about the name on the box or an allegiance to the consoles manufacturer :| its the games and quality people associate with it from previous generations, especially at the start of a generation when a console offers little in terms games and is highly priced.
you seem desperate to make out the PS3 somehow had all the odds against it going into this gen, because you think it makes the console look like its done better, which also seems to be your main aim on SW, for some reason.
I'd say Japan's sales have more to do with MS not understanding the Japanese market as well as Sony, and failing to appeal to Japanese gamers' interests as well as the PS3 did than just brand loyalty.And I actually agree with you somewhat... about people looking at previous gens quality and games... I went with PS3 at launch by looking at Sony's track record of pumping out a lot more new quality first party IPs than the other guys, so I guessed that the PS3 would end up with more and better exclusives, and actually comparing features and prices (a 360 that had all the features I was interested in of that $600 PS3 would have cost me significantly more than $600). I wouldn't call that brand loyalty, especially not with the "blind fanboy" implication that that term has around here. It's making a decision based on the games and features... which is what I said.
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