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#1 jshaas
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="sayyy-gaa"]

From a Christian perspective, if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior before you die, you're going to hell.

tenaka2

so everyone who was on Earth before Jesus was born is going to hell?

Yes, along with all the people in different parts of the world that the word didn't reach, such as north and south america, austrailia, asia etc.

As well as anyone who was blind and deaf. Obviously under christian dogma, those people havn't suffered enough.

Not even close. Those that were born before Jesus could only go to Heaven if they were a Jew... or God's people. His word says that Jesus will return will all have heard the Good News. So, there is still time for those in the world who haven't heard.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-christmas-trees

Long before the advent of Christianity, plants and trees that remained green all year had a special meaning for people in the winter. Just as people today decorate their homes during the festive season with pine, spruce, and fir trees, ancient peoples hung evergreen boughs over their doors and windows. In many countries it was believed that evergreens would keep away witches, ghosts, evil spirits, and illness.

In the Northern hemisphere, the shortest day and longest night of the year falls on December 21 or December 22 and is called the winter solstice. Many ancient people believed that the sun was a god and that winter came every year because the sun god had become sick and weak. They celebrated the solstice because it meant that at last the sun god would begin to get well. Evergreen boughs reminded them of all the green plants that would grow again when the sun god was strong and summer would return.

Theancient Egyptiansworshipped a god called Ra, who had the head of a hawk and wore the sun as a blazing disk in his crown. At the solstice, when Ra began to recover from the illness, the Egyptians filled their homes with green palm rushes which symbolized for them the triumph of life over death.

Your fighting a losing battle here. Your never going to see it but I will try anyway.

Heisenderp

Wow really you actually have to EXPLAIN to some one that holidays like Christmas was adopted from pagen faiths?

There are people who still believe that we came from dirt and mud and that the universe was formed in 6 days. Religion ftw?

You need to understand that God isn't constrained by time. In His Word things are put in the perspective of time so that we might have a better understanding of it. Our very finite minds can't possibly comprehend all the things of God, who is infinite. I'm not really sure why we have Christmas trees, but I do know that Christmas has very little to do with a tree. It's about celebrating Jesus' birthday... which was actually around September on our calendars. As a Christian, I believe life begins at conception... so celebrating in December makes since to me. But, we should also note that our calendars don't line up with the calendar of Jesus' day. Back to the OP... Jesus died to fulfill the laws of God. In the Old Testament, God's people were required to adhere to a sacrificial system. Over, and over again it wasn't working. How many times did God destroy His own people? Not because He wanted to, but because He had to. So, then we come to the New Testament. Jesus is born. His sacrifice was the ultimate plan the whole time... it's prophecied in the Old Testament. Because of God's great love for us all... not just Jews... He sent His son to pay the penalty for our sins. The penalty of sins is death. This was the amazingly free gift of grace. Nothing we can do to earn this gift... it's free from God. Now, Jesus didn't die so that we can all have a free ride into Heaven. Hebrews 10:26 says that if we have known the truth of Jesus, yet continue to willfully sin... there's no sacrifice for it. This means that accepting Jesus, and living for Him requires us to no longer sin. Yes, we will struggle with sin daily... we will have hard times too. That's promised actually. But, continuing to go on living it up and not actually dedicating your life to Jesus won't get you into Heaven. Your life was bought with His sacrifice. So, if you truely love Jesus and give your life to HIm... you don't have a choice how you live your life. Either live for Him, or don't.
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Fox Nation is a user generated source... am I right? So, like facebook, things posted there should be taken lightly. I checked out your link, and the credibility of that source is questionable for me. It's a very liberal site, and they too fail to report the accurate information on the story... as noted by the comments on their site.
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[QUOTE="bub166"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This is such a biased thread, yes there have been some pains and atrocitities that were caused by reliogions, but there has also been alot of good to come out of it. People like MLK Jr, James Madison, Mother Theresa ect....were all religious and very spiritual people whose belifes inspired them to make the world a better place.

There have been several bad things that had nothing to do with religion. WW1 and WW2 had nothing to do with religion, neither did The Shoah (the Holocaust) or the Viethnam ect....Also I recommend you read up about life in the Soviet Union, which was very anti religous (they banned religion and it was illegal to practice it or believe in God) but guess what? Alot of people suffered and died in it.

It reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman wants a Wii and goes to the future where atheists rule the earth but are in a war with otters over what to name the planet. Atroricities arn't caused by religion alone, religion at it's core is simply about loving people and tolerating them and not judging them. It's so easy but so many people forget this and use it to hurt others.

Bottom line: People are the ones who hurt other people.

ShadowMoses900

Because none of the major players in World War II had anti-Semitic leaders.

:roll:

EDIT: In regards to religion being about loving and tolerating without judging, I can't give you an estimate anymore on how many times I've been called a demon-worshipper, Satan's servant, etc. And don't even get me started on all of the people trying to convert me to "save me from eternal torture" or those who don't even want to do the work and just say "Burn in Hell, then." I don't have a single Christian friend who has ever kept from mentioning it. Many may accept it, but they still try to get their ideas in my head. The only definition of religious tolerance that I will accept is one that includes complete and total acceptance of one's beliefs or lack of beliefs, and ignore the subject completely. When people don't comply, I have no reason to either.

The defintion of Anti-Semitism is hatred or discrimination agaisnt Jews as a religion,ethinicty,or racial group

Jews were targeted by the Nazis more so based on their ethnicity/race and not so much their religion, religion wasn't really the cause of that. It's not like the Jews could just convert to Christianity and the Nazi's would leave them alone, they would still be Jews. There are plenty of Jewish atheists out there as well, the term is not contradicotry.

As for the Christians in your life, they sound more like an extreame or more orthodox group. I am sorry to hear your experiences but you can't apply that to all Christians in the world, have you met all Christians? Do you know that they all act like that? Do they all run arond and condem people to hell? To assume they all do is just a form of ignorance and being closed minded.

The true meaning of religion is to love people and not judge them, alot of Christians do not abide by that unforutantely, but there are plenty that do.

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. ~ James 1:27 I think a lot people, believers and non-believers alike, attack others so that their own weaknesses or faults don't look so bad in their eyes. Jesus won't condemn me, so how I can in good conscience condemn anyone else. I can't. I want to, yes. But, that's part of the struggle between my flesh and my faith. The internet is a nasty place sometimes with a ton of very ignorant people. You see if I believe what is said in James here, then I can't remain unspotted from the world if I start hating on someone who doesn't believe what I believe. Now, this goes for both sides! I don't really enjoy reading threads where non-believers say that religion is for ignorant people, or that I'm stupid for believing what I do. I can't change anyone's mind, and I don't expect anyone to think they can change mine. If they do, then they truely are ignorant. We see this sort of thing between Republicans and Democrats, gays and straights, blacks and whites, American and non-american, etc.
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*yawn* The correct answer is people....until you realize that....then I don't consider you dealing in reality.LJS9502_basic
The thread should've ended with this. Good to know someone's brain is operational.
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#6 jshaas
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="AussieePet"] You do not need to be baptized to enter Heaven , Only way to Heaven is Jesus :)AussieePet

Aussie, are you joking around? You can clearly see in that Biblical passage that I cited that baptism is a necessity. What do you think the passage means when it says one must be born of spirit and waterin order to enter the Kingdom of God? You should also consider this passage in which Jesus instructs his diciples:

He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.Mark Chapter 16 Verse 15

Note that he says those who believe and are baptized will be saved.

No im totally serious , How does dipping your body in water makes you saved? Only Jesus can save you not some water Well the spirit of God means having a relationship with Jesus , Ok a murder can just go to Church get baptized does that make him saved?

Wow! The water baptism is the physical manifestation of your salvation. To be saved, you must ask Jesus to come into your life... you must believe that He died and rose again to pay the debt of your sins... you must confess to Him your sins and repent. Then, as a physical act of what has happened spiritually between you and Jesus you must be baptized in water.
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#7 jshaas
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Humans will go extinct, our lives are miniscule in the scope of humanity and humanity is microscopic (probably much smaller) in relation to space.

What do you live for? Do you live to enjoy yourself? Do you live to entertain? Do you live to invent? etc.

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I highly doubt we will go extinct... there's no evidence supporting that claim. Actually, the fact of the matter is that there are more people living today than there are dead. That means we have more people alive right now than have ever lived in the history of the earth. Back to the question... I live to enrich the lives of those around me. Whether it's my kids, my wife, my friends, my co-workers. My purpose is to let the love of Jesus Christ show through my life. To say that we're just here to be here, and things just exist for the purpose of existing seems like the arguement of someone that's given up on hope.
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#8 jshaas
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Well, I for one, don't believe GW is real. My proof is the fact the promoters of said theory are now just calling it Climate Change. This sort of thing has happened during the entire life of the Earth... i.e. the ice age. As for alternative fuels, "green" tech, etc... I'm all for that. Only if it's reasonable. Unfortunately, this is not the case right now. So what do we do? Find new sources, and expand exisiting ones, of fuels that are reasonable. Oil, coal, nuclear, gas, etc. These are all here, now. These energies can be used quite effeciently, and if we would expand our resources here we would see prices drop significantly. Once this is done a push for new energies can really begin. We're not even close when a Chevy Volt costs more to drive a gas alternative... that's if it doesn't spontaneously combust!
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#9 jshaas
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Just had my playstation get the YLOD and I am debating what I will need to do with it. I wanted to ask anyone else that may have had this happen and sent theirs in for repairs, did you recieve the same ps3 back and if so, did you still have your data on the harddrive? I am hoping I didn't lose it all, but I don't want to pay the $50 to send the system in to be told I won't have my data when I get it back. If that is the case, then I will debate just buying a new one if I won't have my data anyway.

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You could try a DIY kit to fix it. They can be found for around $60. It's not a permanent fix, but it will get you up and running. I had the same thing happen to me a few months ago. I fixed it once and it worked great for about two months. Then it died again. So, when my tax refund came back I bought a new PS3. I had all my saves on the cloud (PS+) and a USB drive. The only thing I lost was my themes.
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#10 jshaas
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[QUOTE="theSteeeeels"][QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="theSteeeeels"]fairly curious. its fairly possible there is something after death. i mean the energy and atoms that make up you go somewhere right... maybe you linger in a smog of light dust in some way. personally i think the idea of a heaven is horrible. could you actually imagine living forever? id rather be dead forever than alive forever.

When we go to Heaven we are transformed, and will not be as we are now. So, how you look at an eternal life now would be different.

transformed into what?

When we are raptured at the second coming of Jesus, we will be transformed into our heavenly bodies with the glory of God upon us.