@Deadly_Nemesis @atlanticmoon ya but to be honest i think that BF4 will be the turning point.

i mean which person was in any way impressed by Ghosts? i mean really now. Ghosts looks like a joke in every way.

this year Battlefield has the chance to slowly turn things around.

@Benny_a @abHS4L88 @liftplus5 New Super Mario Bros. sold over 30 million

New Super Mario Bros Wii sold more than 26 million copies

its as close as it gets.

@GamerGeek87 @TheRez @heznave i was just about to say that too...

the only difference in terms of the GPU/CPU is that the PS4 has 16 GPU cores and the XBone only 12.

@Barrakas21 fucking PCs with Nvidia chips xD Nvidia chips with more power than the AMD GPU the XBone uses!

but hey, the original Xboxs dev kits were Apple PCs xD at least theve not gone that far this time

@clarkydm well both have 500GB... if you want to know the reading speed of them... i dont know and i think they've not detailed that yet

@witchergothic @heznave the XBone also has 128mb of SDRAm to compensate for the slower DDR3 ram. that makes the console more complicated to develop for.

@heznave based on the tflop counts both gave we basically know what GPUs they use.

both use a modified 7000 seriesAMD GPU at 800mhz. the difference is that the PS4s GPU has 16 cores and the XBone has 12 cores.

the CPU is 8 cores for both and as far as i know at the same clockspeed... cant remember the clockspeed but theyre basically the same CPU.

if you want more details, i think eurogamers Digital Foundry have more indepth spec infos

@Willie_Dynamite its not only the DDR5 ram, the PS4 GPU has 16 cores vs the 12 cores of the XBone. and both use the same generation of AMD GPUs at the same clockspeed.

@XboxGuy1537 @Warful not nearly as good as the PC version if the understatement of the century.

and i am usually preferring console versions over PC versions, but the whole Orange box basically is horrible imo on the 360... i mean lightyears ahead of the totally ruined PS3 port but still not that great.

and this is comeing from someone who likes the Xbox version of Max Payne 2 better than the PC version...

@sephsplace @PeterDuck ya, just look at last gen. the XBOX had WAAAAAY more power, and even though it didnt get used by many developers, almost every game still looked at least a bit better on the Xbox. and games like GTA Vice City which got massive overhauls for the Xbox version looked like its a next gen version compared to the PS2 versions.

and just think about Splinter Cell! the PS2 versions were a joke compared to teh XBox versions.