@themanofpears: Nintendo went from one the leaders in the home console business with third party support from Square, Capcom, Konami, etc, to last place in the home console market, with market shares lower than they've ever been, and zero third party support, essentially becoming a first party only developer for their home console division.

Its safe to say that Nintendo is failing in the home console division of which they once lead.

On the otherhand they do have monopoly on the handheld gaming market, but we're not talking about the handheld market at present, we're talking about their woeful home console division.

Honestly if the NX doesn't sell more than the Wii U, I can see Nintendo exiting the Home Console division and concentrating solely on handhelds. Because 13 million units per console generation is way too low to be a viable business.

@MrYaotubo: Then what is? Final Fantasy, that's it? Persona is one of the highest budget RPGs in Japan, with its official releases taking ages to develop. If that ain't AAA, then there is no such thing as a AAA JRPG. Which leaves no barometer to split the Legend of Heroes production value with the Dragon Quest production value.

@Flubbbs: We'll see how Persona 5 sells. If it sells bucket loads, we might see an resurgence. Looks like Square Enix has 100% ditched turn based for auto combat, though.

@foxhound_fox: Trying right now with Trails of Cold Steel. But fck its hard, this thing looks cheap as fck.

@foxhound_fox: Yeah I've been spoiled, by the great turn based games of the past, like Resonance of Fate, Dragon Quest, etc. Its hard for me to play lower budget turn based RPGs. I'm struggling to play Legend of Heroes Trails of Cold Steel right now because it looks so damn low budget. Its like my mind is stuck on those great big budget games of the past.

@wiouds: Yes, the problem is there is no physical way for a gamer to control all 3-4-5 characters in combat simultaneously without turn based mechanics. Its not physically possible unless you possess the ability to stop time, which really is what turn based combat really is, its just a way of showing time stopping for you to make your decisions before executing them.

I get that they got rid of turn based because they felt it was outdated, but they have not found an alternative method to replace it. Since real life time stoppage is impossible, there is no physical way for us to control every character without resorting to AI (Auto Combat), which really amounts to nothing more than the AI playing the game for you and making the tactical decisions for you, which begs the question why even bother playing the game?

Its one of those odd things where people don't like the turn based mechanics, yet have no solution to replace it with anything better. So instead of having turn based games, now we have games that play for you, making the new Final Fantasy games almost unplayable.

@themanofpears: There is too much Zombie everything. Not just games. I find that Zombie is the N. American fallback on everything. When in doubt its always Zombies.

Think about how many shows, movies fallback to its "Zombies" plotline. SPOILER ALERT.

Besides the known Zombie shows and movies, like Walking Dead, Fear the Walking Dead, IZombie, World War Z, and etc, You have, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, The Maze Runner (Yes it turns out be Zombies), Game of Thrones (White walkers aka Zombies), Wayward Pines (humanity evolves into Zombies), The Strain (Yes, its another Zombie show), etc, etc, etc.

It would seem to me that simplest most basic plotline of all N. American media is, blame it on the Zombies. No matter how complex things may start, aka Maze Runner, Wayward Pines, somehow the answer always falls back to Zombies. I think its just American culture in general, not gaming.

@bussinrounds: For now I got desperate, so I'm playing "Legend of Heroes Trails of Cold Steel". This game has very dubious production value, literally looks like they just upresed an old PS2 RPG and call it a PS3 RPG. The production value is very shoddy for this game, but since its like the ONLY new turn based RPG in the market, I have no choice.

Man, its become a beggars land for us turn based lovers.

I understand how AAA budgets are sky rocketing, but why the hell do they gotta make every RPG auto combat? Does making the games auto combat attract more sales? I guess people like games that play themselves nowadays. It used be that only the Tales games were auto combat, now everything is auto combat. So sad.

@bussinrounds: I miss the old days when AAA console RPGs were still turn based. Even in the beginning of PS3 and XB360 there were good turn based RPGs like Lost Odyssey, Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon, etc. It all started going downhill when Final Fantasy XIII became auto combat, now every single RPG is auto combat. I curse the day they invented auto combat, it all started from Final Fantasy XII, I curse the day Final Fantasy XII was released. Now every single Final Fantasy is auto combat.

Now I only have Dragon Quest and Persona to look forward to for my turn base RPGs.

I don't get the auto combat thing, how much fun is it to watch the AI play for you? It boggles the mind.

Its always a war when Nintendo is mentioned. LOL