@crazy-roman @kerrman @M3o5nster For the X1 controller the thumbsticks is where the big difference is. They are made of a different material and seem smaller. The triggers are also easier to press in and feel lighter, but they work really well, especially once you get the vibration through the triggers it just brings you right into the game. Playing Forza with the controller blew my mind. Oh and the face buttons are a bit further apart.

The PS4's dualshock is better than the PS3's, that's for sure, but the thumbsticks were less loose and a bit stickier. Which might be better for shooters but it was weird to use. They are also still the same distance from eachother though so using the ball of your thumb still sucks for it. And the touchpad had no features in any games I played. I also found the grips sat really low on my hands.

@torreth1 @kerrman Yes, you are correct. Next spring if I'm remembering right?

@M3o5nster @kerrman Yep, I have actually. And I've used the Xbox One controller. PS4's is weird and just as bad as the PS3's, and the X1's is really different, but feels really really good.

And why would I make games myself? That's just stupid. I'm buying all multiplatform games for it over PS4. As well as the actually good exclusives I want.

But it still has that terrible Dualshock controller and no good exclusives for launch.

I'll grab my PS4 when inFamous comes out, and then I'm sure a few more games will have come out by then that make it worth the purchase. But until then I'll be buying loads of games on my X1.

Well I wish them the best of luck while I play Battlefield 4 instead.

@torreth1 @bledsoe45sbc @XspidervenomX @Master_Overlord That was the only one worth mentioning, but I can't get over being so let down by Killzone 2 and 3. So there is literally nothing on the PS4 I want that I can't get on the X1.

Well I guess I'm not playing during the day.. will have to wait until 11pm when I'm done work.

Lovely.

Oh god I hope this rumor turns out to be true.

@mcnichoj Beat me to it haha

@EddieDominguez Actually it was at Fan EXPO in Toronto, Canada. Open completely to the public, you just had to wait in line. They actually said that it was the only place that you could play it so far (other than in Cologne, Germany). They let you play Forza, DR3, Ryse and Killer Instinct, as well as all 4 days of the event had different mini conferences based on each game.

I managed to get my hands on KI, Forza, and Ryse. All of which were really awesome. Not to mention the controller was absolutely amazing. Best controller I've ever handled.

The PS4 was also at Fan Expo, they brought KNACK, Killzone, and AC4: Black Flag. Knack looked lame, Killzone was gorgeous but I don't like the series, so it will take a lot to sway me to buy it. And AC4 looked really fun, the demo was short and just a battle on a ship deck, but it was pretty awesome stuff.