It was always $99 in my area. Because there's so much unsold inventory, you can go to a few stores and seem some creative stacking. One store used a bunch to be like a door frame. My favorite was this one store that put a 2DS box on top of every other consoles box in the store, and if you said "I feel like buying a PS4, XBO, etc." the guy would go, "hey, why not get a 2DS with your console?" One of the guys said they were compatible to. I couldn't believe it. "you'll need this for extra features" lol.

But when the 3DS gets there then maybe....

Why do I need proof that the Xbox One 180's were before Phil came to power? You already know this, you can't pretend to be dumb, that doesn't work.

Revisionist history is not going to help you. He pushed Xbox Love and indie, games, and this crazy theory of Xbox One recycling Halo, Gears and Forza, after 2007 is nonsense. Including bringing some good partnerships that mostly all flopped but they happened.

2007-2010 FP games not Halo, Gear or Forza:

1. Fuzion Frenzy 2
2. Crackdown
3. Project Gotham 4
4. Lost Odyssey
5. Too Human
6. Infinite Undiscovery
7. Viva Trouble in paradise
8. Fable II
9. Banjo Nuts and Bolts
10. Lips
11. Lips Number One Hits
12. LIps Party Classics
13. Nintey Nine Nights 2
14. Crackdown 2
15. Fable 3

And that's not including partnership games. The guy did good work, XBL users and Install base of the 360 basically tripled and the attache rate did as well. This illusion that Phil has done nothing and Mattrick has done everything wrong needs to die.

I like how you seem to actively be ignoring the main subject of this discussion.

Wikipedias "best seller lists" are wrong, and the references they use you don't even checkmost of the time, but that's not even the part that's the issue, the issue is the vast majority of these hundreds of game librarys, of the Genesis, N64, PSx, PS2, are dominated by western games, but you're ignoring this and instead bring up a pointless (flawed) statistic that the top 10 games maybe 6 of them are japanese. That's not how it works when there are more than ten games. If 50 games sell over 2 million and 12 sell 4 million, which is bigger? the former. What caused more sales for hardware? The former.

I mean let me go back to the point you made earlier about Sonic being the best selling Japanese game but you also ignoring the original point that majority of best selling games on that system aren't from Japan, majority. MAJORITY (heck even in this case wiki agrees with me on Genesis so this basically shows you have some kind of bias you need to work on as you didn't even check your own "evidence".)

You're best sellers list doesn't mean anything when the majority of software sales on the PS2, and PSX are western games.

Also you're own link includes Gamecube and handhelds, one of which is a market western software barely touches. But you're denying that as well, so it seems we have a small problem.

You keep pretending to agree with me but then you backtrack and then be defensive as if you don't agree with me. If you agree with me there was a decline, then why are you using limited best seller lists instead of overall libraries (and even then ignoring one of your own lists) and why are you not agreeing that handhelds, and niche consoles (like NG TG-16) didn't count for Japanese market share before, inflating the numbers? Because if it wasn't inflated then it would be easier to see japans marketshare going down. If you can't agree with that then when you say you believe me when I say there was a decline than you're basically lying to me straight in my face, because then why are you defensive?

Heck, you're cop-out of "I agree, but slow gradual" doesn't even make sense because that's still the same mentality that leads to "when the Xbox/360 came out the market changed in 5 seconds" there was no slow decline, it was rapid, and the majority of best sellers show that in the overall game library. Again, a game like Rugrats Search for Reptar, a game that is considered small is bigger than tons of other japanese games, including known favorites, by noticeable margins, and there are a lot of games like that on the PSX, and these aren't games in the top 20 games on the PSX. But again I doubt you actually are reading my points and probbably think my argument is Japanese games don't sell, which seems to be the posting pattern you're currently on. (heck before you even separated the "top 10 games' by regions like europe and so on, which doesn't even make sense because it proves you don't understand the man subject of this conversation.)

I'll leave you with the original point, that the decline of the Japanese was rapid, and that on mainstream systems, the marketshares of japanese games were falling at a very fast rate. If we were to make pie charts for Genesis, N64, PSX, PS2, the majority of the best selling games in the library will be western games. (N64 may be more even), and this goes into the very strong change that showed when the 360 released, because the momentum was already there. How can there be a "slow" decline, when you have games like Sly 1-3, Ratchet 1-3/Deadlcoked, and Jak 1-3/X all alone sell more than a large number of japanese game favorites, and games in these series weren't in the top 10 "best sellers"?

So like I said I know there are people that refuse to acknowledge actual trends so if you still think that this all happen didn't 5 seconds I can't help you. Maybe you aren't actually noticing my main point and thinking I'm arguing a completely different subject, i don't know, but we clearly aren't going anywhere and you clearly aren't agreeing with me. So I'm afraid we must move on.

All you showed me is that you ignore articles, ignore (like many) that most of the changes, including non-reactionary that had the biggest impact where before Phil was in, and you don't know how businesses work.

This is like thinking Phil was repsonsible for the Madden deal as an xbox goal, like so many fools rushed into thinking immediately when it was a Microsoft deal.

Actually, why he's wrong at who to blame, they did have a chance, they virtually close to tied, and the 360 gained that with almost one country alone.

Why do I need to prove something that's right there in front of you. The majority of changes were factually before Phil came into power. Kinect was not started by mattric either, that story is easy to find, issues is people like you ignore what's been happening because you want to belive this nonsense that everything changes only after Phil came in which is so heavily inaccurate it's nauseating.

Almost all articles on numerous things that peopel criticized about Xbox nearly none of them mention mattrick, go, or ignore the fact, once again, and I stress this because people ignore it, the biggest changes happened before Phil, including changes that were not reactionary.

No he didn't the people, include Phil Spencer, did, he made none of those decisions he was doing his job, that the upper management agree upon in consensus. He had nothing to do with the design of the next Xbox, and he had nothing to do with its price. Those were other people, including phil to an extent. You don't even realize hald the issues that were changed were under mattrick, not Phil and he was placed in the middle of them changing things not the helm.

MN is actually a gamer however.

Why do you think xbox fans are the worst?

How was Mattrick terrible? This is the problem I am talking about He has done virtually nothing int erms of what people used to be complaining about before Phil "saved" xbox.

No. But the rest of your point made sense.

Intel actually keeping up with graphics?