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#1 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]t why cant people leave others alone? Metal_Mario99

You're the one who started a thread about how other people's opinions disturb you. Why can't you just leave them alone?

I did, i took no action in both cases. Im not imposing my opinion, only stating it.
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#2 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Unfortunately (for Islamaphobes) Islam is a religion and thus protected by freedom of religion. I again never understood what was so important about that burlington coat factory.

Islam is also a geopolitical system, and that part of it has no right to Constitutional protection.

The mosque is a place of religious worship. You can say you believe that Islam is not a religion (and I find that disturbing as well as factually incorrect) but that doesn't matter. It is a place of religious worship for a religious group. If it is not protected than neither should churches.

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Its leaving people alone thats they key, let them do what they want. LJS9502_basic

Society doesn't function that way.....

When its stuff that endangers the general public, no. But both cases do nothing to the general public.
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#4 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Last I checked, we weren't living under a Chgristian theocracy. And I find it disturbing that you believe we are.

I actually never stated we are. I said a Christian theocratic law (Marriage HAS to be between men and women because God said so). It has no real basis outside of religion and it is not a secular belief to me. As such it should be purged. It does not belong in our society.

Well no. Traditionally marriage has between between a man and woman even in cultures that did not follow God.

So, when two people agree to gay mariage, and they want to get married, why cant they? Im not saying that you belive that, but why cant people leave others alone? State your opinion and stand your ground. But dont impose it.
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#5 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Trying to change the definition of marriage for an entire civilization is definitely an imposition. Likewise, going against more than 70% of the country and building a 13-story mosque that many, many people see as an insult is likewise an imposition.

How? You arent imposing your values, simply trying to live peacefully together.

We were living peacefully together before the issues of gay marriage and the mosque came up. It's those issues themselves that have caused such controversy.

And then tell me why we cant let people mind their own business? Why cant you let people marry whoever they want? And why cant you practice your religion in peace? How does a mosque/community centers presecnce impose anything? How does gay marrige impose anything? Its leaving people alone thats they key, let them do what they want.
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#6 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]

No where was that in your first post. How do you know that they were basing their opinion on the belief that all Muslims are terrorists? You can't deny that religion was a factor in the attack. That is all the link some need to oppose it.MichBelle
Why else would somone oppose the community center? And we were attacked by extremists. They are terrorists. Just because they are muslim extremists means nothing. Muslims dont think western society is invading. Thats not in the religion.

Dude, stop trying to impose your opinions on me! It's disturbing!!!

Im not, im stating facts. The quaran dosent state that western society is invading and that you should retaliate. So, implying that it does, is a lie.
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#7 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

But you don't seem to mind it when Muslims and gays impose their values on people.

Like when? Gays arent imposing any values, they are minding thier own business. While those who oppose it are stepping in to thier privacy by denying them marrige.

Trying to change the definition of marriage for an entire civilization is definitely an imposition. Likewise, going against more than 70% of the country and building a 13-story mosque that many, many people see as an insult is likewise an imposition.

How? You arent imposing your values, simply trying to live peacefully together.
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#8 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="MichBelle"] Ok, I'll bite. Where were the "facts" in your OP?

MichBelle

Muslims are terrorists. So, that comunity center is built and it says "hah, us terrorists/muslims hurt you and now we own you". How can you not see that as wrong?

No where was that in your first post. How do you know that they were basing their opinion on the belief that all Muslims are terrorists? You can't deny that religion was a factor in the attack. That is all the link some need to oppose it.

Why else would somone oppose the community center? And we were attacked by extremists. They are terrorists. Just because they are muslim extremists means nothing. Muslims dont think western society is invading. Thats not in the religion.

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Its the "facts" that they were based on, and the imposing of values that im bugged by. Metal_Mario99

But you don't seem to mind it when Muslims and gays impose their values on people.

Like when? Gays arent imposing any values, they are minding thier own business. While those who oppose it are stepping in to thier privacy by denying them marrige.
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#10 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] I do realize they can have diffrent opinions. Im a very tolerant person. But the basis on which these opinions are formed are all wrong. topsemag55

Then how are you being tolerant if you think anyone with a different opinion from yours is wrong? Tolerance also mean the ability to perceive that either side can be wrong, or even partly right.

A truly tolerant person will consider both sides before making a conclusion.:)

I didnt do anything about it, i let peoples opinions be. But it dosent stop it from disturbing me. The fact that people can base thier opinions of imposed values and lies... it disturbs me.