[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] when the real problem is in the mind. If you think its a big enough deal, then get therapy.rawsavon

4k is pretty cheap for something that could make you happy.KiIIyou

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocriticalrawsavon

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]

Ok well he can either fix something on his face that he has to live with the rest of his life for a relatively cheap price, or he can waste money on material things he will need to replace down the road... your logic fails. Again you or your parents(most likely) own things that they could have spent less money on, smaller tv, more affordable car, cheaper clothes, no videogames, cheaper computer, and the list can go on. Everybody spends money on things they don't really need. I don't think it's reallyappropriate for you to tell him it's a waste of money when to him it's probably more one of the most important things he can do in his life.

Wow, you have to be joking. So you're saying getting a tv more is worth more because you can sit on your ass inside your house all day long and watch it, as opposed to getting something done that won't make people look at you funny, or talk behind your back anymore, as well as give you a masive boost in confidence so that you can go out and live life to the fullest?

You have no argument.

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocriticalThe_OT_Man

[QUOTE="The_OT_Man"]Here is a picture of my nose. http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/ ....... olivemaster ........ /Mobile%20Uploads/Photo0152.jpg?t=1285539091kamikaze_pigmy

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="The_OT_Man"]The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.TheGrayEye

Yeah, that pretty much killed any reason to defend him...

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] You are not using amount now....like I said that is flawed logic You are using percentage of wealth which is something completely different...which is still flawed, just not as muchrawsavon

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] How does amount determine waste...sounds like some severely flawed logic to meMeat_Wad_Fan

Ok well he can either fix something on his face that he has to live with the rest of his life for a relatively cheap price, or he can waste money on material things he will need to replace down the road... your logic fails. Again you or your parents(most likely) own things that they could have spent less money on, smaller tv, more affordable car, cheaper clothes, no videogames, cheaper computer, and the list can go on. Everybody spends money on things they don't really need. I don't think it's reallyappropriate for you to tell him it's a waste of money when to him it's probably more one of the most important things he can do in his life.

The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.The_OT_Man