Uhhh I play the 360 and ps3 nonstop, and watch sports with the ticker on all day. I don't see any trace of "IR".

IR was a problem for CRTS but not for HDTV. Stop living in a cave.

People with panasonic plasamas like me don't get IR. Any trace of it is gone with 30 secs since plasma is just colored gas.

Boxcutters

I'm having a hard time reconciling your statements. One one hand, you are claiming plasmas like yours don't get IR. On the other hand, you say any trace of IR is gone in 30 seconds. So which one is it?

Look, I don't care if the IR is there for 3 seconds, 30 seconds, or 30 minutes. IR exists. IR happens. IR is a visual artifact. Most plasma owners probably don't think IR is that big of a drawback. But to deny that it even exists damages your credibility in this discussion.

ya i tried that already and it didnt work nothing came on the screen and i read somewhere that hd ready tv's are built without somethings

kcgremlin87

Letting us know that model number your TV is will help.

In terms of HD ready TV's, they usually lack a HD tuner. As a result, they cannot process digital broadcasts picked up from over the air antennas. That's the only downside. If you use HD cable or a PS360 game console, the lack of a HD tuner is not a problem.

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image retention in plasmas?

LOL! Ok man you really know somthing!

Ever heard of Pixel shift?

LOL!

Boxcutters

Awesome. You apparently have the only plasma on the planet that is not only immune to permanent burn in but also temporary image retention as well. Care to backup your assertion by leaving a static image on your plasma for a couple of days?

uhh no!

all new plasmas have protections against IR

Protection does not equate to immunity. You are the one claiming plasmas have no video artifacts in terms of burn in or image retention. Since you are unwilling to back up your convictions by leaving a static image on your plasma for a couple of days, I have to assume your convictions and assertions in this thread are worthless.

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[QUOTE="Invader_basic"]One thing to try is if your TV has optical out, run the HDMI from the Xbox 360 to the TV, then the digital optical from the TV to the sound system optical input. If that doesn't work or your TV doesn't have optical out, then I guess you have to ask yourself how much that surround sound is worth to you, and if you're willing to spend the money for the official cable (or risk doctoring something up yourself).Invader_basic

I'm pretty sure most TVs cannot route DD5.1(or any SS for that matter) from the HDMI input to the Optical output. It will be down-converted to stereo.

HDTV's can output surround sound received from over the air (OTA) digital broadcasts. About 99% of the HDTV's out there cannot pass surround sound received from an HDMI input. Most of the time, this gets downc onverted to stereo, although some HDTV's will not pass any audio from HDMI inputs.

image retention in plasmas?

LOL! Ok man you really know somthing!

Ever heard of Pixel shift?

LOL!

Boxcutters

Awesome. You apparently have the only plasma on the planet that is not only immune to permanent burn in but also temporary image retention as well. Care to backup your assertion by leaving a static image on your plasma for a couple of days?

Duke Nukem Forever.

Anyone who thinks this game will ever come out is deluding themselves.

Only kiddies here buy DLPs. I don't see any normal consumers buying DLP anymore.

"The only problem with the DLP system is that only one color can be controlled at a time, and to overcome this problem there is a rapidly spinning color wheel or other method of changing the color of the light. When your eyes move over the screen as this happens, you can sometimes see a rainbow pattern, similar to the way your hand appears blurred if you move it rapidly in front of a CRT display."

I woundn't want to putup with this.

Boxcutters

For the people that see rainbow patterns on blub DLP's, I would suggest looking at an LED DLP. No more spinning wheels, no blub replacement, and more energy efficient. In fact, LED DLP's are the first place people need to look if they want to buy a DLP.

I'm glad you bought up the topic of visual artifacts. You do realize that DLP's do not have the visual artifacts present in other HDTV technologies such as image retention (Plasma) or motion blur (LCD), right?

I guess that got omitted in your thoughtful analysis and balanced view on this topic.

This suggests otherwise

http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html

CLARITY - LCD

COLOR SATURATION - LCD

ACCURACY / BRIGHTNESS - LCD

VIEWING ANGLE -LCD

Boxcutters

Here's a clue: Just because you link to something does not mean it is true.

This "review" was apparently written several years ago based on some of its content and some of the other content on the site. How accurate are the HDTV reviews several years ago if you apply them to current generation HDTV's. The answer is not accurate at all.

The testing methodology is absolutely laughable. The article would get ripped to shreads on your beloved avsforums.

Here's some highlights:

*Claims LCD has better contrast but DLP has better black levels. (huh?)

*Claims smaller LCD has better contrast than large LCD sets will not even come close to achieving (um, ok)

*Claims LCD has better clarity by sending a 480p video source into a 480p LCD and a 720p DLP. (OMG! Video viewed at native resolution is sharper than the same video upconverted! News at 11!)

*Claims LCD's are brighter on factory settings.(HAHAHA. Factory torch mode settings!! I can't stop laughing at this one.)

*Performed the tests using 22" LCD and 50" DLP. (Well, I guess size doesn't matter)

Next time, come up with something better, not this weak sauce junk.

That article is full of fail.

We all know the PS2 owns all current gen consoles in terms of game library.