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#1 leonalabasters
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Never thought that Miyamoto was this jealous.

So was his Wii Fit also a mistake? He's an Idiot to say that "no controller in hands" is a Mistake..

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He didn't say anything about a controller "in Hands".... just a physical controller, and in WiiFits case the balance board acts as the physical controller. Also, WiiFit is only one game, not something they are building their entire motion control system around like Natal.
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#2 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] It's evidence that a journalist paraphrased Iwata saying that.

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So the Financial Times paraphrasing Iwata's comments is not evidence that he made said comments?

Not necessarily, no. For example: Iwata said he eats bricks and poops cantaloupe. I just paraphrased Iwata, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he said that. In fact, would you regard that as "evidence" that he made that comment? I'm really digressing here, all I wanted to know is what you had. I'm ready to let this go, sorry for busting your balls.

Then again, even if the The Financial Times hadn't paraphrased Iwata but quoted him instead, they could have misquoted him by falsifying his quote entirely, but I don't waste my time coming up with these 'what if' scenario's as you have due to the backpedaling you have done since asking for evidence and having it thrown in your face way back on page one. Ever since then it's been you coming up with far-fetched 'what if' scenario's because that's what your argument has been reduced to as you don't want to accept the evidence you were presented with. ;) The Financial Times have proven to be a reliable newsource, you are just some random guy on the internet with a penchant for trolling. When you paraphrase Iwata and they do it's a completely different thing.
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#3 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] You said it was a direct quote. Finding me a direct quote would be a good start. Particularly considering I just registered to FT.com to read that whole article and there was no direct quote to the relevant portion, only a paraphrase. Meaning I've caught you in a lie. But for your sake, I'll call it a mistake. You're having enough trouble building your case here.Brownesque

stop being so annoying. he gave you the link.

that's pretty much evidence dude.

It's evidence that a journalist paraphrased Iwata saying that.

So the Financial Times paraphrasing Iwata's comments is not evidence that he made said comments?
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#4 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"] I haven't used any strawmen fallacies, I specifically was referencing when you said this: "Gamespot is lying too? lol let it go man... this is pathetic. " which I never actually said. I also never said that FT was lying or that Iwata was lying. I did, however, say that you lied. Which you did. Which I can demonstrate for you, if you like. "You're saying I have no proof Iwata made this claim, when the article is specifically about Iwata making this claim." Proof is different from evidence. I asked for evidence. You have not provided evidence. You have linked to a journalist's claim that Iwata claimed X. You haven't established X. You've re-routed X through a chain of authorities which you are hoping I will defer to because you are using an argument from authority. "Forget your medication?" This is an ad hominem fallacy. Let's count your logical missteps. 1 you lied, a blatant misrepresentation of the truth, two, you've used (or at least implied strongly) strawmen, three, you've used an ad hominem attack, four, you've used argument from authority. All I asked for was evidence that Nintendo was working with camera-based motion capture technology. You haven't given me any evidence for that claim. If you don't have any evidence, tell me you don't have any evidence. I don't regard claims as evidence. That's it. If you don't understand any of this, ask me specifically what you have a problem with. Raise an objection. Don't imply that I have psychological issues or imply that I'm illogical or that I use strawmen fallacies because that's dodging the issue.

The president of Nintendo saying they worked with and rejected camera based motion control is evidence whether or not you choose to accept it as evidence. In the court of law itself, statements from reputable individuals are used as evidence to try and convict fellons yet it doesn't hold up with you? I don't care if you regard claims as evidence. It's not up to you to decide these things. You keep stating that I lied, about what? As far as the insults they come with the territory. When you represent yourself by calling out the credibility of Gamespot, the Financial Times by saying there is no evidence of IWATA making these claims when the articles clearly represent that he did, you make yourself look like a crazed fanboy with an agenda.
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#5 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] You said it was a direct quote. Finding me a direct quote would be a good start. Particularly considering I just registered to FT.com to read that whole article and there was no direct quote to the relevant portion, only a paraphrase. Meaning I've caught you in a lie. But for your sake, I'll call it a mistake. You're having enough trouble building your case here.Brownesque

Gamespot is lying too? lol let it go man... this is pathetic.

Um....do you have any idea what a strawman is?

Yes it's people like you looking for any way out in an argument so they stare logic straight in the face and keep on throwing up strawman arguments of their own and deny no matter what the cost without realizing that they're just making themselves look more and more ridiculous. You're saying I have no proof Iwata made this claim, when the article is specifically about Iwata making this claim. I have no idea what you're on about. Forget your medication?
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#6 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] No, I don't think the Financial Times is lying, but I know that you haven't established that they're telling the truth. I'm going to repeat myself. Can you demonstrate that Iwata actually claimed the things reported in that article?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6211778.html Article is entitled: "Iwata: Nintendo passed on camera-based motion-sensing" What more do you want man? :lol:

You said it was a direct quote. Finding me a direct quote would be a good start. Particularly considering I just registered to FT.com to read that whole article and there was no direct quote to the relevant portion, only a paraphrase. Meaning I've caught you in a lie. But for your sake, I'll call it a mistake. You're having enough trouble building your case here.

Gamespot is lying too? lol let it go man... this is pathetic.
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#7 leonalabasters
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Damage Control from Nintendo Bosswalkingdream
Miyamoto is not the Nintendo Boss.
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#8 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] You're using an argument from authority which is a logical fallacy. As a matter of fact if I were to ask you to demonstrate that Iwata actually made that claim himself, I'd be willing to bet you couldn't even do that. Which means you can't even establish objectively the fact that it was even Iwata making the claim.

Did you even bother to read the article? Directly quoting Iwata from the original Financial Times article? Are you kidding me? So you think the Financial Times is lying now too? :lol: You're too much dude

No, I don't think the Financial Times is lying, but I know that you haven't established that they're telling the truth. I'm going to repeat myself. Can you demonstrate that Iwata actually claimed the things reported in that article?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6211778.html Article is entitled: "Iwata: Nintendo passed on camera-based motion-sensing" What more do you want man? :lol:
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#9 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] Nintendo never experimented with any camera-based motion control systems. See how frickin' easy that was? Are you beginning to understand my point? You cannot manufacture a claim and expect people to respect it as evidence. At the very least it isn't empirical. All your link "proved" (I use that term loosely) is that some journalist reported that the president of Nintendo claimed that they worked with camera-based motion control systems. It is a far cry from actually establishing the fact.

I'll take Iwata's word over yours thanks. What better person to give the inside scoop on Nintendo than their president? I can't believe you're still standing by this argument.

You're using an argument from authority which is a logical fallacy. As a matter of fact if I were to ask you to demonstrate that Iwata actually made that claim himself, I'd be willing to bet you couldn't even do that. Which means you can't even establish objectively the fact that it was even Iwata making the claim.

Did you even bother to read the article? Directly quoting Iwata from the original Financial Times article? Are you kidding me? So you think the Financial Times is lying now too? :lol: You're too much dude
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#10 leonalabasters
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="leonalabasters"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] Um....no, I wanted evidence. You gave me a claim.

Keep repeating yourself no matter how foolish it sounds.

Nintendo never experimented with any camera-based motion control systems. See how frickin' easy that was? Are you beginning to understand my point? You cannot manufacture a claim and expect people to respect it as evidence. At the very least it isn't empirical. All your link "proved" (I use that term loosely) is that some journalist reported that the president of Nintendo claimed that they worked with camera-based motion control systems. It is a far cry from actually establishing the fact.

I'll take Iwata's word over yours thanks. What better person to give the inside scoop on Nintendo than their president? I can't believe you're still standing by this argument.