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#1 lesner87
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[QUOTE="hhttppp"]

TC just wanted a reason to show off his new monitor :lol:

3d graphics design is my career and I occasionally have to do animation as well. I spend most of my days working back and forth between Max 09 and Photoshop CS3. In other words I have a good eye for graphical details. But guess what? When I'm not busy doing that I kick back and play console games on my hdtv! Yes I prefer playing console games, big deal. The majority of the great looking PC games out there that put console graphics to shame happen to be more like playable tech demos than good games with some substance.

You sit here and joke on these fanboys (which I can agree are very silly), but then you come off as a fanboy yourself trying to justify why you think PC gaming is better. You joke on them for arguing about graphics when here you are acting like a little graphics whore yourself.

zipozal

Are you seeing things or just that dense?

First off, it's funny you poor console gamers refer to games like Crysis as tech demo's when you haven't even played them.

If your going to say things like that maybe you should at least limit it to games that are actually critically recepted as such, Black or Killzone for the PS2 would be excellent examples of that.

This thread was for those graphic whores who bicker over which version of GTA4 has a few less jaggies and what not, if your not one of those people then perhaps you should find something better to do then respond to a thread that wasn't targeted at you..

I have played Crysis and Warhead both on High and Enthusiast i believe.And i still believe that they are nothing but TECH DEMOS.As said in my previous post what else do they have other than Physics,Graphics,AI,other tech stuff ? NOTHING...you name any good thing in them and its related to tech.

They are nothing but tech demos...hell during Crysis 1 i remmember that level island.It had so small objectives but it took me hours to go through it just because i was having fun playing with different styles and shooting down trees.Also that oil thing that comes out of the barrel was AWESOME.But again this ALLLLLL is advance tech stuff.

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[QUOTE="lesner87"]

Comparing those two platforms if fair enough but comparing a PC with consoles is infair.And PC will never be an option for them because they want ease of consoles not tension of PCs.

And you as usual mis understood my point regarding the LCD.I know people have enough money for buying the two but they wont buy both.Only gaming freaks would do such a thing.People will go for HDTVs anyday over that LCd screen thing you posted.

zipozal

Comparing those two is fair enough?? I see your still completely missing my point, though I think your statement says it all about you.

You see nothing wrong with comparing PS3/360 mutliplats despite their being virtually no difference, yet because the PC isn't quite a stupid friendly thats off the table? :lol:

I'm sorry, but as a PC Gamer I fail to see the tension your talking about, sure PC Gaming isn't retard proof you have to be able to do some occasional troubleshooting thats as comparably as simple math especially if you know how to type words into google :lol:

But aside from that PC Gaming is the same thing as far as mutliplats go, just better graphics and more options.

And while lazyness and or a lack of intelligence maybe the reason many don't get into PC Gaming it's definitely a farcry from the only reason, hell not even the main reason which I'd say would be ignorance to exactly what PC Gaming even is. I'd go as far to say a good chunk of the population probably thinks of something along the lines of solitare when they hear the words PC Gaming.

So you say that multiplats are always better looking on PC ? Ok did we disagree to that ? NO ! but i say that PS3 and Xbox 360 multiplats offer a FAR FROM UGLY quality to you.Which is,not only good enough to play but also good enough to say WOW ! Just like Oblivion,GTA IV...or any other game.

Now when it comes to overall gameplay i think consoles have the upper hand because of not only good graphics (not the best) but at the same time offering you more than just graphics.Plus exclusivity also counts.Look at the main exclusives,Crysis no doubt has one of the best visuals up to date.Is that going to make it any better from Halo or Metal Gear Solid 4 or GTA IV ? The answer is simple,HELL NO ! Infact if you ask me all crysis had was super advance tech stuff i.e. Super graphics,super human like AI,mass physics..etc..etc...except those things it wouldnt even be AA.

So its the experience that counts NOT the graphics.

And comparing X360 and PS3 is fair because we have two machines having some what the same power under the hood and they are the DIRECT competitors of each other.Does sony ever come up on stage and say nVidia GTX280 has little to offer than PS3 ? because theres no competition.They are both completely different things.Like someone on these boards said some days ago,its like comparing tiger woods with kobe.

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#3 lesner87
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[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="zipozal"][QUOTE="lesner87"]

Can you tell me how many people choose it over bravia ? Take a second and think what majority of people WANT.NOT JUST YOU !

zipozal

Why can't you have both? One's for gaming the others for Movies....I didn't say it's for poor people now

Buddy who is gonna provied the time and $$ ? Do you have any idea whats an average mans earning and routine in ANY country ?

Look at gamespots stats yourself, the overwhelming majority of gamespot posters live in developed western countries, so assuming your not really bad with money and dug yourself into debt or have a low education job you should have more then enough.

At least a third of the posters here should anyway.

More importantly though don't forget this thread is targeting the people who choose to spend their time bickering over the indiscernable differences between the 360/PS3 version of multiplats and if those people really care about graphics that much I'd imagine their in that group with more then enough money.

Comparing those two platforms if fair enough but comparing a PC with consoles is infair.And PC will never be an option for them because they want ease of consoles not tension of PCs.

And you as usual mis understood my point regarding the LCD.I know people have enough money for buying the two but they wont buy both.Only gaming freaks would do such a thing.People will go for HDTVs anyday over that LCd screen thing you posted.

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#4 lesner87
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[QUOTE="lesner87"]

Good thing mines 1280x720.And for 1080 its 1920x1080.

subrosian

What do you mean?

If you have a 720p LCD set, there's an extremely good chance you have a 1366 x 768 panel, even if you don't realize it. If you have a 1080p set, then yes, it should be 1920 x 1080. With tech other than LCD, it varies, old plasmas were an offender, using 1024 x 768 "widescreen" panels, and such... was quite odd.

I was talking about my LCD monitor.I havent seen whats on the TV but monitor shows 1280x720 on 720p.

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#5 lesner87
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[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="zipozal"][QUOTE="lesner87"]

Can you tell me how many people choose it over bravia ? Take a second and think what majority of people WANT.NOT JUST YOU !

subrosian

Why can't you have both? One's for gaming the others for Movies....I didn't say it's for poor people now

Buddy who is gonna provied the time and $$ ? Do you have any idea whats an average mans earning and routine in ANY country ?

It's not really just the pure "money" cost that is the issue, as much as it is a value issue. In a contest between the 52" 1080p set and the curved gaming screen, the 52" set is just useful for more, so wins. Now once you have that big screen HDTV, really, what additional value does the curved screen provide? It's better for gaming, but only slightly, and you already have a good screen for gaming.

The added utility of that second screen (just for gaming) is so small that it will only be worth it to people who are genuinely dedicated to PC-only gaming, loaded, or have a great deal of free time.

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Even people who can afford it may just have no real reason to invest.

Exactly.After you have bought one what is the use of the other screen when this one can be used for gaming,movies....whatever...

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#6 lesner87
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Yes OFCOURSE Gears 2 is a confirmed AAA.But its going to PC sooner or later.And its going to be hard for it to be GOTY with all other tough competitors.
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#7 lesner87
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[QUOTE="zipozal"]

:lol: honestly why even mention the fact that it's 1080P :lol: you may as well say 720P since thats what your playing 99% of your games at :lol: upscaling ftl :lol:

subrosian

Most 1080p HDTV sets are vastly superior to 720p sets - unfortunately 720p sets are typically 1366 x 768 - a really odd resolution that results in additional scaling occuring on the set itself, and of course making it impossible to get a 1:1 resolution when hooking up a PC (since all PC custom resolutions must be multiples of eight).

And honestly, what difference does it make? Resolution isn't the only measure of graphical performance. This person obviously has a setup they're happy with, and don't feel any pressing need to wire a PC into the setup, in place of the 360. They're comfortable, satisfied, and happy. That's laughable?

Good thing mines 1280x720.And for 1080 its 1920x1080.

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#8 lesner87
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I think the topic of this thread was missed by most of you, if you don't care about graphics this thread obviously wasn't intended for you

It's for the people that post within the threads comparing multiplats like deadspace graphically from PS3 to 360

zipozal

What buddy are you kidding me ? You are clearly trying to bash the consoles....and trying to prove your PC rite by facts i believe.Now there are TWO types of facts.One which people prefer and one which they dont for example drinking your urine wont kill you right ? Its a fact but do people do that ? Its just a rough example i am not trying to prove anything.I had to add this sentence because of your immature attitude.Now the other fact is that Drinking pepsi or coke is bad for health but people dont really care and drink HELL lot of it.So these are called GROUND REALISTIES.

And when it comes to ground realities of gaming Casuals (majority) prefer CONSOLES.

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#9 lesner87
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[QUOTE="lesner87"]

Can you tell me how many people choose it over bravia ? Take a second and think what majority of people WANT.NOT JUST YOU !

zipozal

Why can't you have both? One's for gaming the others for Movies....I didn't say it's for poor people now

Buddy who is gonna provied the time and $$ ? Do you have any idea whats an average mans earning and routine in ANY country ?

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#10 lesner87
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[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

I have to agree with the above post. The setting really matters. When I play a Pc game I feel like I am in an office and its not very comfortable. When I play on a console I play on the couch. Feels more comfortable if you know what I mean.

The above picture of the alienware screen and the whole Pc deal looks to expensive for my taste. How much did that cost? Would my family enjoy watching movies on that? Nope. Did you make extra money while you bickered about PC gaming and graphics when you wrote your post?

Thing is this. Thats your opinion and I respect that, but trying to get people to agree with you is another story. I'm glad you enjoy playing games on your uber whatever puter. So enjoy your games while you are not making money

zipozal

This isn't about opinion you and him are making non sensical arguments.

ANYONE can hook a PC up in their living room to there surround sound/big TV and play the game on a 360 remote

I think the topic of this thread was missed by most of you, if you don't care about graphics this thread obviously wasn't intended for you

It's for the people that post within the threads comparing multiplats like deadspace graphically from PS3 to 360

But for that he`ill need a good PC too right ? Some wiring and software installation ? And plus a PC looks bad in your living room hooked up to a bravia or something.

Stop comparing them you are failing no one agrees with you.Its ALWAYS about opinions and when it comes to facts.Theres just one SIMPLE fact which is that Consoles are far more cheaper,easy and good to go.Now face that.