I liked the Wrath of Cortex the best. I'm talking about the Gamecube version not the PS2 version which takes so long to load the first time I played it I thought the disc was defective.

You're really reaching for something that isn;t there. Comprehend this for a second, notice that I asked somene what about that games makes you think it should be on the list. If they answer back it means it's a conversation. I then asked to be mre elaborate whuch he tried. I don't see why that part confuses you, I guess if you stayed in school. Jakandsig_

That would have been fine if you weren't so overly opinionated and pompous.

Contradictory position? Are you completely stupid? Taste has nothing to so with anything I wrote, in fact, you either didn't read it or a moron. If for exampleyou say that a game such as Sonic is one of the best platformers of all time because you: 1. Collect things 2. Have fast attacks 3. Colorful stages. those are all invalid reasons. His while not as obvious were also invalid. Jakandsig_

Taste has everything to do with what you wrote. Tell me something are you a video game journalist? Do you make a living praising games worth? What makes your opinion or evaluation of a games merit any more valid than that off Vighneshvara's?

I only listed games that were not trying to copy something else. Or at least attempts to make it diffriate itself in the long run which most SNES Jrpgs DO NOT DO. So again, are you just not able to put words into context? The reason why FFV is criticized and most likely the most ignored (Debatable) in the series is because it takes a different route (and apparentlythey don;t like the sotry either.) Breath of Fire Has the ability to turn into dragons fuse with allies, use spcial abilities as a requirment as another character in the overoworld (Day night cycles arent exactly new but at the same time barely any games used it on the SNES) I have no idea where BOF3 came from I think that happened while I was searching something about it. Dragon Quest 5 to be honest not many games play like it in the gen. Not many FP type Jrpgs on SNES and the way you interact is different too granted. 7th Saga is a challenging game that has many paths that can make you start from the begining again with a interesting Battle System animation and many alternate storys with different types of stats. Robotech, Unique battle system, odd plot, odd enemies, robot things, there's nothing like this game on the system. Almost all other games copy another game, take somethig from another game and barely improve it, or anything similar to those two. You can't say that's wrong when it's true. You may love the game but almost every other game lack originality. SNES speaking of courseJakandsig_

Subjective, subjective, subjective, there is alot of your opinion in here. Also your explanation was not ''valid'' enough for me

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Stop being ignorant of what's going on. I am asking to provide a reason for thinking game is the best reason of all time, I get responses that are based off ignorance and vague explaination or the wrong explaination I am not bagging on the games, I am bagging on the fact no one seems to actually have a reason why or at least this person. The games I listed was directled to an earlier post which was talking about originality which a large chucnk of Jrpgs on the SNES DO NOT Have regardless if you would kill yourselves for them. I didn;t even give my opinions on the games I listes. So again, it's like your looking to start something when there's nothing to start.Jakandsig_

It's really difficult to follow your train of thought it's like trying to understand the ramblings of a crazy person. What makes you think that you are entitled to a answer. If someone likes a game then they don't need a reason to like it other than they had good time playing it, and they certainly don't have to justify their opinion to you just so you can automatically take up a contradictory position. What you don't seem to get is taste is subjective and there's no right or wrong answer in regards to someone's personal preference

I want you to explain to me in excruciating detail why those games you listed were original. So I can just automatically contradict your explanation and tell you that your wrong.

Wow I swear god forbid if you critize a fanboys game all logic flys out the window. You clearly stated the reason mainly why the game is one of he best is because you believe it did things that werenot usuallydone/popularized until later, yet at that same period plenty of games did. Basically you called it unique in some ares where it wasn;t except for the ares it was. You never actually sated one thing it actually had over other games. I never said NOOPPPEEE either. Only your last 2 points can even BE relevant and yet You seem to have the wrong definition of Depth. So I still don;t exactly know what you're getting at, and uh, you went from mature story to being gos which does not tell me how the story is mature.Jakandsig_

Jakandsig stop being a chooch and go troll somewhere else. I didn't see anyone disparaging the games you listed or your opinions on them.

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Lol made you rethink that one didn't I? Another win.Jakandsig_

What is it exactly that you think you won?

Well I'm still saying Secret of Mana deserves to be on the list. So you really didn't make me re evaluate my opinion on the game, nor did you win anything.

Lol made you rethink that one didn't I? Another win.Jakandsig_

What is it exactly that you think you won?

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Hmm? do you consider it strange or something to like it? It was a pretty successful and well received game.

Because it's one that I think gets passed over a lot. In terms of quality I'd compare along side the games listed in the poll. Still not gonna answer your question though.:P

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No Secret of Mana anyone?

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Hmm? do you consider it strange or something to like it? It was a pretty successful and well received game.

No Secret of Mana anyone?

If only it was that easy to dismiss. Cute how you berate those who may feel differently about the issue as "whining apologists". :roll: Anyway used game sales do hurt developers especially when most all stores that I go to only charge a mere $5 less then new games. If that used game wasn't available then I highly doubt that that consumer would not just pick up a new copy instead for the extra $5.Archangel3371

By hurt you mean lose sales that they've never had to begin with. All other media that people buy can be sold as used. I don't see why developers think that their product should be any different. Its only Gamestop that does that five dollars difference bs. If you buy games on ebay or Amazon used games generally are ten to as high as a fifteen dollars less. Besides ain't Gamestop entitled to make money just the same as the developers since they are the ones who actually distribute at least 60-70% of their product. Gamestop doesn't really make any money on new sales, so the industry should be happy that they even sell new copies.