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#1 m3Boarder32
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@Juub1990 said:
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I have one, don’t feel like trouble shooting it

Know how to turn it on? It's pretty easy. I can assist you if you'd like.

Sure we’ll give It a shot.

i think I’m going to need a new windows key tho

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@Juub1990 said:
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Crysis 2.0

PC Gamers love Tech Demos

Get a PC and stop being jealous for Christ's sake. This trolling is really low quality.

I have one, don’t feel like trouble shooting it

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Crysis 2.0

PC Gamers love Tech Demos

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@Juub1990 said:
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In November 2013 the GTX 780 Ti was released, $700dollars, 250watts, 5TFLOps

if someone in November 2013 told you a new console was releasing in 2017 and it would have 20% more TFLoPS than a top of the line 780 Ti You likely would have laughed and used the same argument you are now, yet here we are with Xbox One X

I don’t see why it’s so impossible to imagine a next gen console in 2021 releasing with 20% more TFLOPs than a 1080 Ti. It would it 4.5 years after the 1080 Ti (1080 Ti is 11.8 TFLOPS)

Actually a better comparison would be the R9 290X which has 5.63 TFLOPs. Xbox One X has only 10% more and was released 3 years later.

Relatively speaking, the 1080 Ti is also far more powerful for its time than the 290X was so while it isn't impossible for a next gen console to pack a GPU that would outdo a 1080 Ti three years from now, it's not a certainty and it entirely depends on the advancements made in the next couple of years.

Use AMD vs AMD. Not NVIDIA vs AMD.

Replace 780 Ti with 290X and everything I said still holds up

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@Johnny-n-Roger said:
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If 2019 is the release so 2018 would be the manufacturing period and the only mid tier GPU's AMD has are the Vega 11 which are meant to replace the RX 480/580 Polaris price segment of the market which would probably fall in the 150w or less category also with maybe core clock adjustments.

Those chips will not out perform a Ti... They will probably land around the Vega 56-64 area of performance but be a lot easier to run.

They have two Vega 11 GPU's listed under XT and Pro probably a 570/580 kind of thing. LINK.

Vega 20 will also be released in the next few years but those will not be power and cost effective for consoles, as for Navi?... Looks like we won't be seeing that till 2020 and even then those will be high end cards that will draw more than 150w.

Vega 11 is the only chip AMD has for the next 2-3 years that is for the mid-tier market, and undoubtedly they will just refresh it like they did with the Polaris with the 480/580 cards with in that period.

We won't be seeing Navi mid-tier cards till 2021 or maybe even later.

So this means "next gen" will be, at most, a 50%-60% performance increase over the XBOX One X. That's a tough sell.

Exactly that’s why I don’t see 2019 happening.

If PS5 comes out in 2019 with 8 TFLOPS like some people are predicting Here. Microsoft could spin that and say “our last gen console is only 25% less powerful than PS5”

That would be a PR nightmare for Sony

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#6  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@04dcarraher said:
@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

12 TFLOPS or more is just not going to happen, maybe in another 2-3 graphics card generation we would have mid-tier cards with that much power and efficiency but nothing on the horizon is on that level.

I disagree. There's no reason why high end performance can not become "mid-tier" in 2 and a half years. A mid-tier GPU in 2 years will be more powerful than a vega 64

If they are going to stay under 150w TDP, Even with 7nm your not going to get a more than 13 TFLOP GPU.

In November 2013 the GTX 780 Ti was released, $700dollars, 250watts, 5TFLOps

if someone in November 2013 told you a new console was releasing in 2017 and it would have 20% more TFLoPS than a top of the line 780 Ti You likely would have laughed and used the same argument you are now, yet here we are with Xbox One X

I don’t see why it’s so impossible to imagine a next gen console in 2021 releasing with 20% more TFLOPs than a 1080 Ti. It would it 4.5 years after the 1080 Ti (1080 Ti is 11.8 TFLOPS)

He has a point regarding TDP though. It's unlikely that you can get a Vega chip to draw less than 150 watts (from 300) without being clocked down significantly and compromising performance. Not in a cost-effective way, at least.

Vega 64 is sort of an anomaly tho. Vega 56 is 10.5 TFLOP and 210w.

Vega 64 is only 20% more TFLOPS while using 40% more power

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Pretty much and for Tflop numbers they will just use half precision numbers to announce there tflops with on there consoles.

They could even just clock up the current xbox one x gpu by 20% and announce it as a 13+tflop gpu and call it a day.

Stupidest post of the day

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#9  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@04dcarraher said:
@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

12 TFLOPS or more is just not going to happen, maybe in another 2-3 graphics card generation we would have mid-tier cards with that much power and efficiency but nothing on the horizon is on that level.

I disagree. There's no reason why high end performance can not become "mid-tier" in 2 and a half years. A mid-tier GPU in 2 years will be more powerful than a vega 64

If they are going to stay under 150w TDP, Even with 7nm your not going to get a more than 13 TFLOP GPU.

In November 2013 the GTX 780 Ti was released, $700dollars, 250watts, 5TFLOps

if someone in November 2013 told you a new console was releasing in 2017 and it would have 20% more TFLoPS than a top of the line 780 Ti You likely would have laughed and used the same argument you are now, yet here we are with Xbox One X

I don’t see why it’s so impossible to imagine a next gen console in 2021 releasing with 20% more TFLOPs than a 1080 Ti. It would it 4.5 years after the 1080 Ti (1080 Ti is 11.8 TFLOPS)

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#10  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@howmakewood said:

@m3Boarder32: get out, doesnt even match 980

Err Sorry, I meant Kepler Titan