18?? daaaaaannnnngg...me...only 4...but i haven't been up here a year....the mods are after me too!!!!! we're wanted men!!!steppinrazor88
No kidding...I was suspended for copying and pasting an article that said there were 300K PS3's on store shelves..I've been suspended for saying i think the MIddle East is an unsafe place to visit for Americans...:roll:
Enough with the "Bluray has enough capacity to keep using MPEG2" BS ok...Crank is 90 minutes long and fills up the entire 50GB, if its 100 minutes long, it would not have fit on a 50GB disk...If Crank would have used 6.1 or 7.1 audio instead of 5.1 it would not have fit...
The Descent fills up 49GB and its actually using AVC, if they would have used MPEG2 it would not have fit...
Kingdom of Heaven fills up 46GB by using MPEG2, and it has absolutely ZERO Extras. It's just the movie, nothing more.
I don't know about you guys, but for me, the more they can fit on the disk the better.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]Starting from Casino Royal all BluRay will use AVC H264, now it's still MPG2. gizmo_logix
Judge the film on the visual quality of the movie. Not the codec used. Mpeg2 has shown to equal or trump vc-1 on certain titles. It depends on the style, film type, artistic direction, age of the film, transfer, bit rate, and hardware encoders/decoders and software. M$ at first was trying to shill their vc1 codec (FUD and propaganda = see avsforums) as the end-all-be-all codec and constantly bashed the BDAs decision to go with mpeg2 on some of their titles. In the end, it's up to the movie company and the quality should be judged by your own eyes, taking into consideration of all he factors I mentioned above.
Which movie to come out on Bluray and HD-DVD with different codecs (MPEG2 for BD, VC1 for HDDVD) has looked better on Bluray? A few months ago everyone on the hd dvd was bashing the movie Hitch and blaming the codec ONLY. Completely overlooking the other factors I mentioned. This was the story for blu-ray for months while hd dvd had a headstart (toshiba and labels). Over the last 6 months dual releases came in mpeg2/vc1/or mpeg4 for blu-ray and almost all vc1 for hd dvd. Fast foward to the last 2 months and what we find is that certain titles that came out on blu-ray mpeg2 vs hd dvd vc1 look the same (egads! How it that possible!?). This is a mpeg2 to vc1 comparison. Remember that mpeg2 was not supposed to compete according to the M$ shills! And each title that has come out on mpe2 recently has gotten better. This is a lot different compared to 6 months ago. There are some hd dvd movies that came out in vc1 which looked bad (Egads! How is that possible?!). And others that have come out on mpeg2 look great. Remember, mpeg2 was NEVER supposed to look great. And vc1 was supposed to always look great. That's not the case. mpeg2 has caught up. And if the advanced coded mpg4 is needed. Then, movie companies will go that route. As you can see that those are becoming more common. The dual titles difference are negligible now because the main controling factor is the source material. The BDA's titles early on was not only affected by the source film. But also buggy firmware, bad transfers and player filters turned on (w/out the option to turn it off). This is why you are seeing more mpeg2 blu-ray movies and hd dvd vc1 films (same movie) get the same rating. Times have changed.
In other words your "MPEG2 has shown to equal or trump VC1 on certain titles" quote was badly written? MPEG2 should still never be used...VC1 and AVC could look just as good and take up less space at the same time, which in turn allows for more extras, and more sound options.
[QUOTE="pimperjones"]Starting from Casino Royal all BluRay will use AVC H264, now it's still MPG2. gizmo_logix
Judge the film on the visual quality of the movie. Not the codec used. Mpeg2 has shown to equal or trump vc-1 on certain titles. It depends on the style, film type, artistic direction, age of the film, transfer, bit rate, and hardware encoders/decoders and software. M$ at first was trying to shill their vc1 codec (FUD and propaganda = see avsforums) as the end-all-be-all codec and constantly bashed the BDAs decision to go with mpeg2 on some of their titles. In the end, it's up to the movie company and the quality should be judged by your own eyes, taking into consideration of all he factors I mentioned above.
Which movie to come out on Bluray and HD-DVD with different codecs (MPEG2 for BD, VC1 for HDDVD) has looked better on Bluray?
[QUOTE="pimperjones"]Starting from Casino Royal all BluRay will use AVC H264, now it's still MPG2. munu9
actually; open season, already out, is encoded in AVC on blu-ray (by sony) and it's suppose to be one the best looking blu-ray movies. Many reviews say that it truly shows that blu-ray can be more than a match for HD-DVD quality...
He never said Casino Royale would be the first, he said all Bluray movies after Casino Royal will use AVC. I myself doubt that, but im just pointing out he never said Open Season would be the first AVC movie on Bluray.
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