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#1 marvelfan
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...a novelty.

Now before the sheep start stampeding, please hear me out. The Wii is revolutionary and I can see why it is selling good. I haven't had extensive time with the system but enough to grasp the concept of the Wii and a few of the games released for it. But from a gamers standpoint, it just doesnt cut it compared to what you can get elsewhere. I confess, I am a bit of a graphics whore, but gameplay is what ultimately keeps me hooked for hours and days sometimes. Everyone have an open-mind and take a minute to read what I have to say.

Advantages

--Controller boggles my mind on how it works. I feel sometimes like I have a full body controller on sensing every movement I make. Truly innovative.

--First-party games are what you have come to expect from Nintendo. All the familiar names are there or will be shortly (Zelda, Metroid, Mario, etc.)

--It is cheaper than the PS3 and Xbox 360 and tons cheaper than a gaming rig.

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--Slick-looking system that fits with anyone's home theatre set-up.

Disadvantages

--Graphics are poor compared to today's standards and will only get worse with what is coming out there for other systems.

--Sound could actually be worse than the graphics.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

--Motion sensing is still not where I would like it to be. There was targeting issues with a few of the FPS games I played and other little annoyances that reminded me that this is new tech.

--Third-party games are weak and nothing on the horizon that jumps out at me. Anything multi-platform either skips the Wii or is a watered down port.

--Majority of games are for a younger audience and I'm not that young anymore.

Conclusion

I'm sure I may have left out a few advantages and disadvantages but this is what my initial impression of playing the Wii has left me with. You get a fun system that would be cool to play with a lot of people who aren't serious gamers. My uncle is the one who owns the system and he is 50+ years old. Exactly the type of person Nintendo is hoping for. And I guarantee you a year from now, he will not be playing his Wii anymore. He's always been into the latest and most hyped tech and this is the latest one. Kinda like the Wii commercials, where you have those two guys come into a business or house and it shows everyone having a good ol' time. It's like a trivia game or board game that you whip out when lots of people are together and need something to do to kill time. A passing interest...a fad...a NOVELTY. Nintendo knows this and, quite frankly, the only ones who don't get it are crazed Nintendo fans. Nintendo doesn't want you sitting on the couch wasting the day away playing their machine. They are content to sell them like hot-cakes for real cheap, let them collect dust in the closet or corner, and when you want a party game or short diversion from reality, to think of them. Everyone has there preference and I like cutting-edge graphics, mature themes, and immersive gameplay. Not cartoonish looking, keyboard sounding, my-wrist-is-throbbing, gameplay.

Anyone else feel the same way? Any Nintendo fans that can acknowledge these obvious facts but are happy anyways? I'd rather fanboys admit the system is a novelty but don't really care, rather than trying to pass this system off as a true gaming system and deny the obvious.

d12malu

You are a genius my friend, couldn't have said it better my self. Precisely my thoughts on the Wii and whyI wont buy one.

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#2 marvelfan
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ps3 will cease 2 exist. Sony will go third party and develop mainly for the wii

360 will loose all suport. M$ will try to sell his os by bundling a free 360 with it

wii will continue number one for 12 years beating the ps4/5 and new xbox 1080



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You got some bad weed man, you need to throw that **** away.

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#3 marvelfan
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I know what you're gonna say right: "The first Killzone sucked, it only got 6.9/10, so why would this one be any better?". People don't realise that things are a little different this time around.

Well, here are my reasons why I think Killzone for the PS3 could be great:

1. Development Team

There are more than 120 developers in the Netherlands working on the game at the moment. The new Killzone PS3 will be fully translated in 20 different languages. 120 devs is a huge number to be working on the one game, and is a large increase from the original Killzone for PS2. Yes, quality over quantity, but how about you give the devs a chance before making assumptions that the game will suck. There are devs from the original Killzone, the Killzone on PSP which was AA on Gamespot, and many news devs brought in specifically when Sony bought Guerrilla Games.

2. Budget

It is believed that the budget currently surpasses £20 million ($40million), which is comparable to a small-budget Hollywood picture and is the most expensive multimedia project in Holland's history, though this has yet to be confirmed. It will have downloadable content like other contemporary games, possibly in the form of episodic content. Massive budget, and we can only hope that the money could produce a great game (and it very well could).

3. Development Time

It is believed that the game has been in development for over 2 and a half years which is much longer than the rushed Killzone for PS2 which Gamespot claims could have been good with a "few coats of paint". This time, that should not be an issue. The long development time can aid in getting rid of any glitches or bugs, as well as produce an overall solid FPS game. The technical limitations of the PS2 also stopped KZ on PS2 from being as good as it could have been but this issue does not seem apparent with the PS3 according to Guerrilla.

4. Fear of Halo

Sony knows that there was not one (good) exclusive FPS on the PS2. This is one thing critics and the gaming community in general agreed on. That, and the fact that online wasn't great and that there weren't enough 1st party games.

All of that is changing with the PS3. The online is getting better as time goes on, there are plenty of highly anticipated 1st party games coming to the PS3 (Uncharted, Killzone, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Ratchet, Jak, Killzone etc).

And Sony knows it needs to compete with Halo. And you can bet that's the reason Sony bought Guerrilla a while back and that's the reason the game has such a big budget, huge dev team and very long dev time.

That's it. Killzone could be great. Things are different this time around (Budget, 120 dev team, and long development time). I'm not arguing that this game will be great, but it has strong potential to be great, and people have to accept that instead of writing it off as "another FPS", because the shock could very well be too much to handle on release.

What do you guys think?

the-very-best

I just hope it has a good Online mode, because games here at Gamespot seem to get slamed in the rateings, if they don't have a online mode.

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#4 marvelfan
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Cry on fanboys. The Wii iswinning and will end up with the best games. The PS3 and 360 are both going down in flames. It doesn't matter how many threads you make to complain about it the Wii is going to win. Period.

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I'll give ya that the Wii is selling great and might win with sales this gen, but that it will have the BEST GAMES I will not give you that. If the Wii wins it will be because of the wiimote and the cheap price, not the games, when has nintendo ever put out more then 3-4 really good games in one gen, and when there games do, do good, there are always the same games, mario, zelda, and MP.

Everyone knows that the Xbox 360 and PS3 game line ups blow away anything the Wii will ever have, get over it.

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#5 marvelfan
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="skullkrusher13"]

[QUOTE="nhh12345"][QUOTE="skullkrusher13"]when a system only has one game, its bound to sell well.HarlockJC

motorstorm, and vf5 say differently.

7.9 and 8.1 say differently.

You only play AAA games?

Don't you know that any game that Gamespot does not say is a "AAA" sucks.....Silly Rabbit "AA" are for losers

Man your missing out on a ton of good games, if you really go by that rule.

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#6 marvelfan
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[QUOTE="marvelfan"]

Fads blow out of the gate and sell a ton , and everyone loves them, but then after a while they see if has no depth and no lasting appeal, and so it dies off to become just a memery.

Iyethar

That's what just happened to the PS3, though. Big hyped launches and now no-one cares. Wii on the other hand is going the distance.

That is not what happed to the PS3, thats a nomal sales spike for when a console launchs without very meny games, as soon game the games start to cme out you will see the sales start to slowly go up, like everyone in the world says the PS3 is a long term console, it's ment to last for 6-10 years.

It may seem that way now, but just watch, it will completly turn around in, 6 months to a year, And thew PS3 will be out seling the Wii from month to month, thats not to say that the Wii will have not sold a crap load of consoles buy then, no one can say that the Wii isn't doing great, im just saying I think it's not a long lasting console, bt a bang for your buck now console.

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#7 marvelfan
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Getting ready for a rant, admins might want to lock down this one.....

Okay all that are posting the WII is a FAD, WII sucks, let's look at the other consoles that are next gen..

PS3 man talk about a lame FAD console if there ever was one.. Most PS3 fanboys trump up the system posting oh This game is the best and, yah that game will rock unfortunatly these games haven't even been released... However on the same note towards the WII you Super Mario Whatever will be lame. What gives you can say your unreleased title will be better than a WII unrelease title... Well look in the Mirror your best scorring game is a 360 port, all else is really craptacular.. Yeah the PS3 is the textbook definition of FAD if there ever was one. On release people were shooting each other to get one, then a month later you could stroll almost into any store and purchase one. Damn talk about being owned PS3 fanboy sony owned you hard... They sold you a blue ray player that just so happens to play console games.

The 360 is less of a fad than the PS3, since it is the sales leader... However it also plays it completly safe, and thefore it is really just an extension of the XBOX. The 360 was the first to the market, and at least it had some worthy launch titles. However M$ wants to nickle and dime you to death...

XYZVector

Man you have no idea what a fad is do you? The PS3 is anything but a fad, it's long term console, the Wii is a fad it's made to be a fad , it's coming out with it's best games within it's first year, it's dirt cheap, it's so easy to play that even old granny and beat you with the games it has.

Every add is geared to show it's a party console. The wii is just the DS on crack, that you can put to your TV, thats all it is amini-game party console, and nothing more.

Fads blow out of the gate and sell a ton , and everyone loves them, but then after a while they see if has no depth and no lasting appeal, and so it dies off to become just a memery.

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#8 marvelfan
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A fad does not constantly outsell every console every NPDSonick54

Dude thats what a fad is, something that sells amazingly well for a while and then just dies off, I'd say the Wii has another 6 months to a year before we see any kind of drop off, and then it's still a ok console.

I think Nintendo is very smart, I mean the mainr eason of putting out a console is to make money right? Well hell Nintendo is makeing a killing off the Wii, is cheap to make and yet sells for $250, the games are dirt cheap to make for it to, And all the add ons, and the VC selling old dirt cheap games for more then there worth, is genius.

Hardcore is dead, this is the future, sell a buch of crap to all the dumb ass's that no nothing about gaming to make a killing, sounds great to me, where do i sign up, i want to get rich to man.

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#9 marvelfan
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[QUOTE="marvelfan"]Yeah I can't wait, the one thing I can't wait to see is Killzone 2, even tho I don't own a PS3 I still want to see this game. There is so much hype for it yet we really haven't seen anything about it, I want to see if the PS3 can really pull of those kind of graphics, and gameplay. Because if the PS3 can do that then all that crap about how it can never be as good as the Xbox 360 in graphics because of it's GPU, will be disspelled. Hater3000

I wouldnt hype KZ:2 ,Is dangerous .Really i lost interest for most of the upcoming games.

^^ Never said i was hpyeing it, just said I want to see if the PS3 can pull off those kind of graphics, if it can I can't wait to see what the lems will say. They have been stateing for so long that the PS3 GPU sucks and isn't as good as the Xbox 360, but if the PS3 some how pulls off GeOW graphics and better, Then man that would be a sight to see. lol

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#10 marvelfan
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Mario.

They tweak a few things each gen, and the Nintendo fans act like they have never seen a mario game before in there live's. It's the same guy with the red hat people get over it.