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#1 marvelfan
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I'm pretty disappointed with the PS3's launch. This is the first time I'm not so hyped over buying a Playstation.

1. $650 tax included for the 60GB PS3 console.
2. There are no " must buy " games.
3. They took out the RUMBLE and add a motion sensor.
4. It didn't hardly improve on it's controller and just added an extra button in the middle of the control and made the back to shoulder button more trigger like.

I am a big Playstation fan and I love the type of games that the system has like Tekken 6, Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, and the Final Fantasy series. The original Xbox I didn't like that much but had some good games like Halo and some FPS. I also like their graphics compared to PS2. But PS2 had better games at the time. I basically had everything except FPS which Xbox had more. But now I have a 360 and I think it's a pretty good system. Great graphics, probably has the best controller out of the 3 systems ( in my opinion please don't be offended and I'm a playstation fan too. ), and have a solid online mode. Oh and it also have more variety of games now since most game companies are releasing their games on multiple platforms. So Xbox improved in these ways.

1. Xbox original controller was kind of big and bulky but the smaller version that came out later felt better. Xbox360 improved on that and made it a more solid controller.
2. They now got more dibs on more third party games which will be great for everybody.
3. Next gen graphics and gameplay for $300-400.

Okay bottom line is I don't want to play favorites but I love how the 360's doing. I think its a solid system. PS3 on the other hand is not a " must buy " system for me. I'll probably buy it as soon as a really good exclusive comes out for it. I'll probably sell both my " peanuts" just to buy it. But you can't diss a system that's doing great. PS3 may end up being the best in the long run but it's not going to be easy. I still like alot of games that 360 is not getting. Oh and for the Nintendo fans out there. Wii is a secondary system that everybody buys. It's either a PS3+Wii or 360+Wii and for rich people all 3. But I don't think Wii will have the great games like PS3 and 360 does. It will just have fun games.

Truvietplaya


You said you loved the PS2 right? Why because of the games right?

Well did all those games come out for the PS2 within the first 2 months, no of corse not, so what made you think it would be any different with the PS3?

Give it some time people, good games will come out for the PS3, and the price will come down.
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#2 marvelfan
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Here is the best Ninja ever.



ASK A NINJA
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#3 marvelfan
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]why do people bash the PS3 24/7?

what the hell did Sony do to you guys, you lemmings talk about the PS3 more than cows.

you lemmings should give people reasons to buy an Xbox 360 and not reasons not to buy a PS3.
colmusterd28

Reason #1...XBOX live

Reason #2...Nice price point

Reason #3...cutting edge graphics

Reason #4...Halo 3

Reason #5...Gears of War

REason #6...BioWare

Reason #7...controller

...Theres really too many reasons Id be here all night...



PS3 rocks.

Reason #1 Hi-Def Blue-ray player.

Reason #2 60 gig Harddrive, can be upgraded.

Reason #3 50 gig Blue-ray disks for games.

Reason #4 Bluetooth wireless constrolers.

Reason #5 Free online play.

Reason #6 HDMI port for ture HDTV.

Reason #7 Internet browser.

Reason #8 Cell.

Reason #9 FF13

Reason #10 MGS4

Reason #11 Lair.

Reason #12 Weighs a ton ( makse it's hard for thieves to steal lol )

Reason #13 Killzone.

Reason #14 Linix

Anyone want to add to it?

Other words to say that the PS3 is not worth it and is a crap console is not fact but just your opinion. The PS3 is well worth the $499- $599 price tag.

And will have many games to play in it.
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#4 marvelfan
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[QUOTE="DrPepper1998"]I recently had an email sent about what Sony has done, and all the information is true, with backed up information. heres what it said:

OK, Sony has a bad history, and is not a company you want to support.

(These things are not in chronological order)

First, we have the Sony laptop batteries. You can read he FULL article here
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/online/insideit/story/0,,1861273,00.html
So Apple, Dell, Gateway, and a few other laptop brands signed on to support Sony batteries. Keep in mind that this was a year or two ago. Sony claimed that the problem was because of charging problems in Dell laptops, but that myth was busted after there were problems in Apple laptops, and Sony Vaio laptops. So the next thing that Sony went with was some issue about metal particles getting in the battery during production, and that it was impossible to fully remove them. The problem with that, is: Why havent Cell phone batterys had that problem before? Well the truth of the matter was that Sony didnt do their research. Heres what really happened:

Now in a normal Lithium Ion battery, there is the Lithium anode, and which gives it the "Lithium" part of the name. The electrolyte can be many different "Ions" The most commonly used, is Cobalt Oxide.The problem with Cobalt Oxide, is that it decays (not like α decay) at about 110 degrees Fahrenheit. By decay, I mean releases Oxygen. Oxygen is a gas, so when released, it can make its way into the anode. The anode in Lithium Ion batteries is Lithium. Now when you get Oxygen with Lithium, The Lithium catches on fire. Fire means heat, which means more oxygen released, which in turn means more fire until the electrolyte runs out of Oxygen. By then, the fire can freely access the Oxygen from the outside air, and there is fire until the Lithium is done burning. Now Sony claims that it was because of small particles getting in the battery. The problems with that, is that first, Sony was lying. Second, The "small particles" have been in Lithium ion batteries for a long time, and are supposedly impossible to completely remove during production. Finally, this problem has been seen most in Dell laptops. Dell is famous for putting desktop CPUs in laptops. Desktop CPUs generate more heat than Laptop CPUs, and are more likely to reach the 110 degree danger zone. Now you might say from all of this, what could Sony do? The answer is simple; use a different electrolyte. There is a manganese ion that has a decay temperature around 130 - 160 degrees. That's safer, and a lot less fires would happen. It would definitely be favorable. However, there is Iron Phosphate (FePO4) which decays at around 1,300 degrees. That temperature is way out of the danger zone, and is definitely better than the manganese compound or the Cobalt compound.

Next thing is the root kit scandal. You can read the article on it...
http://www.indicare.org/tiki-read_ar...?articleId=165
But in short, Sony pretty much protected their Music Cd's so it disabled your media player, and protected itself so it couldn't be copied or anything. This was no simple "ha ha funny Sony, time to remove your software" No! This was serious stuff. As soon as you hit that "I agree" It goes on your computer, and you will have a fun time getting it off. It did say that the music would do stuff, but it didn't use terms like "root kit" and the descriptions of what it would do were not clear at all. They were trying to evade you from thinking there was a root kit. So basically what it did, is hard code itself into your OS, and it would boot up when you start your computer, and (I think) would even start in safe mode. The worst parts about this was that since it was in the license agreement, it couldn't arouse your antivirus software. It in fact would attempt to kill it if you tried to crack the music. It was even a hidden process, so it was really hard to be noticed. If you even tried to crack the music, it would collect personal info, disable antivirus software, and allow other viruses to come into your computer. It was not something to toy with. So why did Sony do this? They said "Most people, I think, don’t even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?" Thats like saying She doesnt know what syphilis is, so I will still have unprotected sex, and transmit it. Its taking advantage of people, and is evil.

This next thing speaks for itself. Its very saddening to read, but here it is:
http://www.lik-sang.com/
oh, and Sony wasnt playing around with suing lik sang...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.?aid=20489
Basically, no importing Sony products, or else you get sued. The only place where you can even get Sony products, is USA, Japan, and Europe. Lik sang was helping out Sony, and what does Sony do? they back stab and sue, because all they want is money. They know that they arent coing to make very much off of the PS3/PSP, so the way to get the most money out of it, is to sue lik sang, and pull a few hundred million dollars out of them, and they are set. That's more money than they would have made in PS3/PSP profits from sales to Lik sang. And you better believe that they pulled a lot of money out of Lik sang, seeing how they got themselves out of the battery incident, and the root kit scandal.

By now, you have probably read tons about PSP modding, and homebrew. What you might not know, is that the homebrew is the main thing keeping the PSP alive. The PSP has failed in terms of sales. The DS has sold many more units than the PSP, and has sold more ever since they released the DS lite. Its almost like 2 releases for 1 system. Not a bad business strategy if you ask me. Not a very nice one either but its not like you have to buy 2. Anyways, back to the PSP, about 75% of people who own one use homebrew which is technically "illegal" according to Sony. They are in fact, trying to get rid of it, when it is the only thing keeping it alive. The reason they do this, is again money. Homebrew isn't boosting sales, and with all the Nintendo emulators, its not helping Sony's image. It in fact is promoting a lot of things that would cause Sony to lose money, and you know by know that they don't like that.

Now they got this new thing called the PS3. Now you might ask whats wrong with releasing a system. You probably know that there are a lot of things wrong with it. But to set things straight, the PS3 is not more powerful than the 360. You can read up on it here. (its 11 pages of advanced computer information, beware!)
http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1
and all this mess over Blu-ray vs HD-DVD, They are competing formats. One is Sony's, and one is Microsoft's. I would not recommend investing in Blu-Ray. Sony did the Betamax, ever remember that? Not very well, because the format failed. Ever heard of minidisc? neither have I, but I heard that it failed. Moving right along to UMD, a more recent format, which still failed miserably. UMD however had "failure" written all over it. Buying a PS3 for the Blu-Ray player, is like buying a PSP for a UMD player, or buying a PS2 for a DVD player. Don't invest your money into a format that will most likely fail. Even so, its supporting a bad company.

So, is this a company you want to support? after all of this? I mean, they were on top for a while. They did have some decent products. But now, They are nothing but money hungry jerks. They are not what they used to be, and they just seem to be going downhill. We would be at no loss if Sony died. We have Samsung, and Philips for TVs, and DVD players. We have JBL, and Bose if you like speakers. If your not smart enough to butil your own computer, you can get Gateway, Dell, or HP. Everything I have seen from Sony, is an overly expensive product that looks good, but is overpriced, and performs like crap. Sony's time is up. Nobody stays on top forever. Its time Sony goes out of business. Now all that needs to be done, is to let the voice be heard. Just email this to your friends, so they will know the truth about Sony.
DrPepper1998
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Take a look into Microsoft legal past, and it will make Sony look like saints.
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#5 marvelfan
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PS1 kicked butt, PS2 kicked butt, so what the hell happened to PS3? I would have thought after the immense success of PS2 that the PS3 would have launched with a killer line up. Maybe since the PS2 is still going strong this didn't happen but come on I expected something more then RFOM.

To make matters worse the PR people. Sony you cannot have Guys like Kutagari, Kaz, and Jack Tretton running the show....There is no exuse for that or any of the comments or statements they make. They sound like a bunch of drunk college guys after they are questioned why they got with the fat chick the previous night.

Well I got VF5 to play with soon which is good. But if things don't shape up quickly I don't know what to think. FFXIII weren't on 07 release lists which means its most likely gonna be an 08 release. Every Final Fantasy that has come to the states has been released in Q4. I can wait until Q4 08 because I also have a Wii, 360, and PC to occupy me. But can Sony really hold on until 08?

Lets be serious games like Motor Storm, Lair, and WarHawk aren't going to save the PS3. Heavenly Sword looks promising though but I doubt it will be better then DMC and DMC isn't even a AAA game series. Sony just find a way to hold it together and weather the storm until the big hitters come in 08. That's all I ask.
Blackbond


It's only been 3 months, what do you want from them?
And they launched against a console that had a years head start, and a console that only cost $249 bucks.

The PS2 has done so well because it's a long term console, and so is the PS3, you can't tell what is going to happen after only 3 months.
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#6 marvelfan
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But if the PS3 had good games along with Blu-Ray there would be more sales.CJL13


There will be good games, but for now they are puting there BR first to get sales for it up, then later you will have games like Motorstorm, and Lair, Hevenly Sword, MGS4, FF13, White Knight, KillZone. And many many more to come.

Sony may be very arrogant, but it's for a reason, they are very good at what the do.


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#7 marvelfan
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PS3- 1 million units sold

Wii- 4 million units sold

360 10 million units sold

Don't come with "teh PS2 sales still own". That is as dumb as defending GC sales with NES sales. Yes. PS2 outsold almost anything, even beer sales(this is a joke, don't reply that last thing). PS3 sales are just lame. PS3 is being owned.

Don't say but teh 2008...

But teh... (any games that will come soon)

Right now, there is no massive game that will sell 3 million units (to catch up with actual Wii sales) in less than 4 months. PS3 is bashed hard, sales, games and community wise.

curono


The PS3 has yet to launch in Europe, where as the Wii and Xbox 360 have done that already. There will be a big boost in PS3 sales then that will narrow the lead the Wii has on the PS3.

Or corse the Xbox 360 will stay far ahead of both of them.
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#8 marvelfan
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Finish the scentence.Tony-Baxter


Being #1 for 10 years taught Sony how to be..........Very good at what they do, but very arrogant at the same time.
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#9 marvelfan
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does it really matter, i find it more ironic that the people who call nintendo kiddy will never get to enjoy a nintendo product because they want to look mature.Big_player


It has nothing to do with wanting to look mature, im 28 years old and have injoyed Mario and Zelda when I was young, but the games that come out today are not like mario, there like the Teletubies, super bright colors and super high kiddy voices, It just get's to me in a way I don't like.

It'a all about taste.
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#10 marvelfan
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I think Reggie from Nintendo said it right. HD is still early for this gen - only about 19% of current US homes have a HDTV. He basically said HD will be for the next generation of consoles.

sonicare


Sony made a console that is going to last for 10 years, yes HD is next gen, but at least 5 years from now you will have it with the PS3 and not have to buy a new console.

HDtvs are coming down in price fast, and are dominating the market even today, so to say that HD in consoles is to soon is bull.