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Just take a look at Microsofts past and it puts anything that Sony has done to shame.
[QUOTE="marvelfan"][QUOTE="Natural_Mystic"]We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date.
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb. 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date
May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500
May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed.
May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan)
Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline
Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99
Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2.
Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition.
October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"
October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games
October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge
October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang
October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94%
October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red
October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units
Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network
Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3
Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007
Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe
Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few
Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems
Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i
Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility
Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3
Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07
Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time
Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360
Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets
Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs
Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up
Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut.
Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust
Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360
Dec 21, 2006 - Sony filed a patent for wiimote style hand-held controler
While it's not all of Sony's fault, they have done little to apologize for their delays and arrogant statements. It's a bad trend that they've started, and the more they continue the more we'll be seeing article after article on Gamespot.....day after day about something else they've done to flaw the PS3's image.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of flaming cow responses, but hey that's expected. I can understand their crankiness b/c I know I'd hate to be in their shoes atm. Hopefully Sony will have some sort of eye-opener to the amount of distaste they've started among gaming consumers, and will get back to what they used to do best.
Nova_Mongoose
Nice you made the point that you don't like the PS3 grats, im so glade to hear it, you know because we don't hear it enough on these forums.
Why can't you fanboys just leave the poor cows alone, yeah there PS3 isn't doing that well in the press and stuff, but why do you have to kick them while they are down and shove it there face time and again, grow some hearts you mean ass Fanboys.
it's called "payback"
Well why don't you guys be the bigger persons and end the cycle?
We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date.
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb. 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date
May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500
May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed.
May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan)
Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline
Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99
Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2.
Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition.
October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"
October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games
October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge
October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang
October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94%
October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red
October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units
Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network
Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3
Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007
Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe
Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few
Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems
Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i
Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility
Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3
Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07
Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time
Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360
Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets
Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs
Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up
Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut.
Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust
Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360
Dec 21, 2006 - Sony filed a patent for wiimote style hand-held controler
While it's not all of Sony's fault, they have done little to apologize for their delays and arrogant statements. It's a bad trend that they've started, and the more they continue the more we'll be seeing article after article on Gamespot.....day after day about something else they've done to flaw the PS3's image.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of flaming cow responses, but hey that's expected. I can understand their crankiness b/c I know I'd hate to be in their shoes atm. Hopefully Sony will have some sort of eye-opener to the amount of distaste they've started among gaming consumers, and will get back to what they used to do best.
Natural_Mystic
Nice you made the point that you don't like the PS3 grats, im so glade to hear it, you know because we don't hear it enough on these forums.
Why can't you fanboys just leave the poor cows alone, yeah there PS3 isn't doing that well in the press and stuff, but why do you have to kick them while they are down and shove it there face time and again, grow some hearts you mean ass Fanboys.
The recent news has sparked a lot of criticism of Nintendo recently, and for good reason. They did after all renege on their promise of DVD play-back and open-storage capabilities. However, the fact is that the Wii represents the console incarnation of the DS. The DS, despite Nintendo's domination, was suppose to go the route of the 64 in the face of the PSP's advanced tech. Like the PSone, the PSP had media capabilities, a new disc format, and supposedly would get more software support. Yet, this time around it crumpled and the DS dominated. Thats because the strategy of innovation and simplicity is a winning one in today's gaming market. The Wii, while certainly not as rosy as it was a few days ago, is still gonna dominate this generation by leaps and bounds. First lets clear up some myths:
*The Wii does not have Gamecube graphics, it has about 2-4x as much power as the Gamecube, and 1.5x as much as the original Xbox. It is not using outdated technology, its developing new tech designed to work with the new control software and hardware.
*The Wii will not only have free online, but it will be infinitely more integrated than the DS online. With a single friend code for all games (or gamertag to compare to Live.)
*Nintendo is taking a chunk out of their royalities to ensure that games stay at $50, instead of $60 for new releases and $70 for mega-titles.
Now that those common misconceptions have been cleared up, it should be worth noting that the game graphics for the Wii will be advanced enough to compete with the original Xbox and when coupled with the new control scheme will be a much more indepth experience that either the 360 or PS3. If there are three kiosks in a Gamespot, and all three have Madden 2007, and all three have graphics more powerful than the last generation, you are going to try out the one where you can throw the damn football. Its gonna be a year, two at most, before the Wii starts outselling the PS3 and 360 combined. People wanna say PSWii and Wii60, but the fact is that kind of mentality will only last in the first few months and launch windows. By the time people get a chance to compare the functionability (and realize graphic differences will be even less noticable than the PS2-Xbox gap) then there is only going to be one compeititor.
The Lemmings and Cows tried to pair off with the Sheep because of the huge E3 victory Nintendo pulled off (10 hour lines = victory, yes.) But the fact is that the Wii is going to become the PS2 of this generation, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are going to remain the scope of the niche gamer who playes the occasional good game like Gears of War or Assassin's Creed. The war is about to begin, and you guys are gonna get Wii-Dominated.
Alunanite
If the x360 and PS3 died out only to leave the Wii, well I guess it was a good run but I would be done with Video games if that happened.
The future would be nothing but Big headed anime games, where every char sounds like a girl, id raher shoot my self then to be forced to just play those games.
[QUOTE="HarakoMeshi"][QUOTE="NickLikesWii"]Remember Sony talking about how the PS3 can generate excellent real-time graphics using only the power of the Cell, with no GPU at all? They showed up demonstrations of this at E3.HarakoMeshiWell, take it from someone who loves the PS3 and knows the hardware intimatly - the Cell is not as fast as a GPU at rendering graphics. That was a bit of delusion some Sony designers had before :). Edit: Take it from someone who has written software renderers on the Cell (yours truly). It's not that the Cell isn't very fast; it could do more impressive software rendering in real time than any other console or PC these days. However the Cell is very general purpose hardware compared to a GPU. On a GPU every single transistor, every FPU, is designed for graphics with huge pipelines and caches designed specifically for vertices and pixels. What some people don't get however is that the PS3 Cell + GPU can be used together to produce much better graphics than the 360's GPU (which by itself is faster than the PS3 GPU). Yee shall see in good time.
Iv been trying to tell people this, and have been looking for some info to show them, do you know where we can get a link that talks about this?
[QUOTE="NickLikesWii"]Remember Sony talking about how the PS3 can generate excellent real-time graphics using only the power of the Cell, with no GPU at all? They showed up demonstrations of this at E3.Nagidar
:lol: :lol: You know absolutely nothing about computer hardware.
Andyou know nothing about the Cell.
ok this might have been asked before but i am new and have to know will the ps3 only come in black or are they going to have it in white and silver as well if anyone know please tell i really want the white one and at the confance they kept on showing the white psp so you would think they would have the white ps3naturefox
I think for now all Sony has said is that the launch console will be black, then later the silver one will come out. Thats all I know.
According to this link YES it will, At 2X speed.
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&message.id=241683
Ok check this link out I think thay just about got it right.
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&message.id=241683
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