I agree about UT2004. To some it may seem like a massive spamfest, but it really is deep and requires quick precision, fast reflects, etc. You didnt mention the genre of the games though. If your talking about FPS only, I can say Americas Army 2.0. I played that game for years, was in a few clans that competed in TWL, CAl, etc. It wasnt a noobfest like COD4, you needed to learn the maps, work as a team, always communicate, etc.

theres this new free game that came out recently built on the UE3 engine. its called Alliance Valiant Arms. I was surprised, I dont really play free games, besides AA2 back in the day. I find it really fun, has some cool customization(better than COD4 imo) and interesting game mods. And its really popular to, no trouble finding a game at any given time.

http://ava.ijji.com/

Americas Army 2. Had over 1000 hours in it. Had my account from 2005, so I had quite abit of time to collect that amount of hours lol.

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I played through Warhead, and got maybe halfway through Crysis and stopped playing. The only thing good is the graphics...why is this game a 9.5? Shooting guys is boring, the game doesn't make good use of its physics engine, and the missions are just lame.

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There's some reasons.

First of all, it gives you certain amount of freedom: you can step some meters -hundreds- from the way that is supposed that you must track, you can choose between a good amount of weapons with a lot of different attachments, you can choose different modes of fire, and you can use the suit powers to play in a different ways of evade totally these powers. Is your choice. And is one of the few fps in that stealth works -no, stealth didn't work in Far Cry-.

Second, it has a very decent I.A. Yes, there's some glitches and if you combo stealth+silencers the KPA turn to a idiotic and stunned mob of chickens, but if you play without the camouflage in delta you will find that they are capable antagonist, that flank, call for reinforcements, search for your last movements, makes a good use of grenades, etc. They don't "cheat", they don't infinite respawn, etc.

Third, the attention to detail. You talk about bad implemented physics but previous than Crysis I haven't seen a humvee driver lost the control because you blow the tyres. You can explode the tank fuels, you can survive a great fall if you hit in the water instead of the ground, there's tons of animals in the maps (kiwis, frogs, turtles, sharks... ) and you can affect with your shoots a lot of items in your environments. Those things are unnecessary to the fps mechanics, but the work invested in makes the game much more vivid, realistic and inmersive. In some of the most hyped fps the attention to detail is pathetic.

Fourth, there are vehicles, you can use them if you want, ant the handle is great. Is not the main attraction, but is a valuable tool in your arsenal, and can be a capital part in the multiplayer (Power Struggle mode).

Fifth, the gunplay is great. Not as great as a UT deathmatch or maybe as a F.E.A.R. Combat, but it's at year's light from the tedious shooting in Bioshock or the gravity-gun oriented Half-Life 2.

But if the game doesn't reach you expectation and you didn't like it is fine. In matter of tastes, any argument is valid. But even if you don't like the game the game is good. I don't like Rolls Royce -Aston Martin or Bentley are more in my tastes- but I 'll never say that RR makes bad cars. The production values in Crysis and Warhead are very high.

you said it all man*teary eyes*

nice suggestion from the lists guys. I was looking for more of a single player experience atm, so I dont know if ill be checking out the unreal games. I just isntalled my copy of half life 1 so Ill prob do a run through that shortly, and then try some of the others mentioned.

wow it looks very interesting, ive been out of a good online shooter ever since AA3 was released, it killed the AA2 community and AA3 is to buggy for me to play ATM. I think ill dload I really like the gameply ive seen, but how popular is it?

ive played most of those, I just finished some of the jedi knight games I like the pain killer suggestion, I never finished it. And I didnt like hl1 as much as 2 for some reason, but maybe its worth another playthrough?Thanks for those who suggested. Any others?

Ive been getting bored guys, Im looking for some classic fps games to play. Looking around the 2000-2004 era mostly. Ive played quite a few from that era IMO, Half Life 2, Far Cry, the medal of honors, the origal call of dutys, far cry, NOLF 2, FEAR, crysis, swat 4. I need something new ATM. I recently installed COD2, what a great game that is, but I want something more.

Just reinstalled IE7, and the videos are not working properly anymore.

I posted my problem over the the adobe forums and didnt get a response there, so I decided to test somethings out for myself. I completly removed windows explorer 7, restarted my comp and bam, videos are working fine now. Im about to reinstall it and see if the problem remains.