Maybe the TC and a bunch of you otherpeople should actually read the article and apply some basic reasoning skills.

How much did they lose in the 4th Quarter which just ended?

The answer is $1.20B

How much of that was a ONE-TIME warranty provision?

The answer is $1.06B

Meaning, how much was the routine operational loss?

The answer is $0.14B or $140 Million.

Which means that the division is on the verge of profitability. Indeed it will turn a profit in Q1 of this fiscal year. And a significant profit in Q2 which includes the run-up to Christmas.

You see my 14 year old friends, ONE-TIME provisions do not affect future operating results. There will be a profit turned in fiscal year 2008 which started July 1st and that is precisely why MS took the big bath late in the 4th Quarter of last year, which ended June 30th.

READING COMPREHENSION FTW

SUD123456

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

A few hardware problems for the 360 but overall it's a great console. Once the 65nm chipset is in the 360 it's going to be so much better. Second over 7 million people on XBL and I bet over half are gold subscribers. This holiday season is going to be great for MS.

Krisgebis

How is that off topic? You clame M$ should leave the console business because they have operated at a lose last fiscal year, he stats that they are heading for a bright future. At least he backed his statment up with some facts, you have just been spining things. So in this "argument" we can only include premises that you find appropriet?

Then he says that there are 7 million xbl members and he says that more than half are gold with zero evidence and you say that he is stating facts.And besides how will this contribute much to profitabily.It's not that MS got all those members in a fortnight and besides LIVE is really cheap and doesnt really contribute much to income.

Yes the holiday lineup is good but so is the wii and especially ps3 lineup which means severe competition.Well i think i missed out the facts that hesupposedly listed.And remeber this isnt about good games and having fun and all that.

for the '07 Fiscal year.....not for the whole year of 2007. Damn kids probably dont even know what a fiscal year is....*sigh*.

anyway, im sure next fiscal year will be alot better with all the games being released.

kcm_117

And MS pulled in nearly 15 billion in net profit for the year, which is a 15% increase from last year. Yes MS is hurting, LOL!!! :lol:eastside49er

A few hardware problems for the 360 but overall it's a great console. Once the 65nm chipset is in the 360 it's going to be so much better. Second over 7 million people on XBL and I bet over half are gold subscribers. This holiday season is going to be great for MS.

PS3_3DO

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]Didn't Sony loose a few billion earlier this year?baddog121390

Because sony isnt actually making as big a loss from the ps3 as the accounts say.Why?Well because the sale of blue ray movies to ps3 owners dont go in the ps3 sales.And besides the situation is just not that worse BY ANY STRETCH of the imagination for sony.They have made a profit for over a decade now in the gaming industry and some losses after huge successes happen with many firms and projects.

But microsoft has not made anything in 6 years.DAMN 6 YEARS.And i bet they wont be making a profit for the next 5 years at the very least because they now have to first wipe away the 8 billion dollar loses considering it doesnt get anymore:lol: before making profits which i doubt will ever happen.

Whilst money hasn't really ever been an issue for Microsoft, someone higher up on the ladder HAS to be looking at all this loss of money with a disgruntled tone. somewhere in the range of 3 BILLION dollars LOST in one month. That isn't over the course of a year, that is in one month. That is harsh. This will be sure to turn some heads in Microsoft Corp. That isn't to say failure is eminent, but it sure as hell doesn't help the matter. And I love how lems are already damage controlling for Microsoft, and trying to turn this around to be about Sony. This is about Microsoft.0rin

dont worry lemmings, it hasnt flopped much as Xbox1 didsilverjiken

so does that mean they are 5mill from last gen and 2 billion from this gen in the hole? dang that is sad if truemazdaspeed-rx8

Didn't Sony loose a few billion earlier this year?baddog121390