@neobone2 said:

@gpuking said:

@arunsunk said:

@gpuking:

LOL. So what you have to be white with crap on your neck to be considered not looking like "ass"? You can join casharmy with his "greasy" comments.

Way to take it out of context son, you sorely misunderstood me. I was referring to this zoomed in picture from earlier, forgive me for not being specific.

in game zoomed in

cutscene

See, the in game model has no depth, no SSS, lacking skin shaders, no stands of beard, no hair rendering to save on rendering budget, the difference is a galaxy apart.

This is a placeholder character is it really hard for you to understand?

EVERY character in SC Alpha looks like this guy in the first image.

EVERY player has this character.

I perfectly understand it's placeholder therefore UC4 looks better, how hard is it for you to understand? Also don't think even the final build would match the cutscene quality not without a drastic change in lighting engine, adding more dynamic lights, increasing memory budget to store LODs, increasing shader budget for hair rendering, more shaders and higher quality post processing. I'dwager the final model would not differ much at all from the placeholder in terms of rendering quality.

@neobone2: If it's interactive then it's gameplay to me because it's still affecting all the AI, physics and course of event that's happening correspondingly. Drake uses LODs so the closer you get to him the higher the quality, so during gameplay when you somehow move the camera close to its face it would load the LOD 0 Drake's face which is the same as cutscene quality. That's how they do it to keep things consistent tho I'm not seeing it in SC.

Way to take it out of context son, you sorely misunderstood me. I was referring to this zoomed in picture from earlier, forgive me for not being specific.

in game zoomed in

cutscene

See, the in game model has no depth, no SSS, lacking skin shaders, no stands of beard, no hair rendering to save on rendering budget, the difference is a galaxy apart.

@arunsunk said:

@gpukingsaid:

So many dumbos these days, you're comparing a close up cutscene shot to a distant view ingame shot, of course you can't resolve as much detail from a distance, same as real life, people 50ft away would appear less detailed with no textures etc.

Don't blame him, blame @casharmy for applying that as the standard:

@gpuking said:

Not to mention that's from the earliest pre alpha build of the game.

But the zoomed in SC model still looked like ass and nothing like the cutscene quality. Whereas UC4's ingame and cutscene models are exactly the same look.

in game

Cutscene

@neobone2 said:

And the ingame graphics in UC4 has not the same quality like the cutscenes

Cutscene

Ingame

Ingame hand

Cutscene

So many dumbos these days, you're comparing a close up cutscene shot to a distant view ingame shot, of course you can't resolve as much detail from a distance, same as real life, people 50ft away would appear less detailed with no textures etc. Not to mention that's from the earliest pre alpha build of the game. As for the hand, they're both the same except the change of lighting angle. You proved nothing here.

In other words BELIEVE! and JUST WAIT!

lol no thanks. I'll take what developers actually deliver in tangible realtime gameplay from the actual game as their "proof" not words and promises.

You can jump up and down screaming while giving me bullet point projections about what they say they are trying to do but it doesn't mean anything when it comes to actually results.

as far as the model I was referring to, I call it a demo/prerender. I didn't say it wasn't real time but the section used wasn't from the game. Maybe you don't understand what that means but Naughty Dog has the same thing only PS fans aren't desperate enough to use it as "proof" of anything.

Here is an example of a "demo" of the realtime Drake model in UC4.

lol as you can see it takes WET DUMPS on all over every Star Citizen model used so far...

But since it's just a demo model I didn't use it as "proof". I only used gameplay and cutscenes from the actual UC4 game, and yes all the cutscenes in UC4 are realtime too.

Now continue to DC!

@Juub1990: OK first I was referring the PBR statement to that Crysis 3 comparison, I know SC indeed uses PBR. Now SC's model is sorely lacking in the graphical features as I listed. There's no hair rendering and far less Tress FX, no good quality hair shader, no sweat shaders, no muscle deformation, what seems a lack of real time SSS, no beard rendering or physics based mesh interaction with wind physics such as shirt flapping, chest hair flowing. I'm not trying to spout tech jargons just for the sake of it but they are indeed missing from SC's model. There's no way around it, UC4's models look far more convincing in both techs and on screen appearance.

You argue SC's superior techs which may be true to an extent but they're not found directly in visuals, it's more to do with the open world nature and interaction of it and it shows, it simply did not dedicate nearly as much techs in its character models than UC4 did.

Let's all be frank here, UC4 utterly overwhelms SC in their respective state. The kind of setpieces, graphics fidelity and animation displayed in UC4 is on another level. No rendering at 4k, 60fps etc could ever bridge such gap.