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#1 nikefreak
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[QUOTE="xelloss88"]Depends, at a LAN party we left 6 systems on for 3 days and they still work perfectly. However my system did end up dieing from just sitting around for 1 week then turned it on and red ring of death, this was about 6 months after this lan party. Its really random when these things die._RA0_

lol mine have been on for 2month now, and still going :)

Going on 2 years here, with 2 360s, and both are still alive and kicking after all that time, with nearly 24/7 use. My Wii however, just started dieing (GPU overheating), which on a lesser powered console is pretty sad... So much for it just being 360s that have poor reliability. And I know of PS3s that have been DOA and overheated, etc as well.

Welcome to the world of consumer electronics, ones which we wont be able to treat like we did back in the days of cassettes. As electronics become more complex, expect more problems, and to have to be more careful with the surroundings, the way you use it and maintain it, etc. Just like computers are consuming more and more power, eventually, we are going to have mini-nukes in our homes lol :)

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[QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="eatmyjunx"][QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="eatmyjunx"][QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="degobah77"]This is complete BS and a slap in the face to all those that supported MS by buying the console when it was released.eatmyjunx
Oh get real... Get off your whine wagons and realize, Sony has done this for YEARS, Nintendo has done it for YEARS, There is nothing wrong with Microsoft improving the hardware as time goes on, and it becomes cheaper to make (Hence how they are able to NOW put larger drives and HDMI, if this is true, and they couldnt then. Its the COST, which they are making over 100.00 per console atm, so they can improve things and still make a profit. But yes, before you all go around screaming and toting guns, think about it logically... How many versions of the GB Advance were there? PS2? PS1? Gameboy? N64? (Colors mainly) Gamecube? (At least 2, as one has the ability to do EDTV, one doesnt (the newer ones removed the port to save money)... So if you get my point, nothing new, and you guys are obviously either Sony fanboys trying to puff up something trivial to whine about, or just people complaining because they dont always get whatever everyone else gets. If you want the new console THAT badly, then its YOUR responsibility to sell yours and go get another. No one elses.

the point is you need to **** *** **** **. I just bought an xbox 360 and now im ******* PISSED! Sony re-made a PS2 into a slim-line with the addons towards the END of the cycle of the ps2, the x360 still has 4-5 years left in the cycle. There is a WORLD of diffence between the two, make no mistake about it. See this is the problem with so many Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys. How do they Do it? I mean it's not like you guys are getting paid to do it. you guys are Consumers. News like this is SUPPOSEd to piss you off. dosn't make sense. If you don't believe me, my gamercard is "pr0f" I own the crappy overrated Gears of War and Madden 07 (and geometry wars)

You dont even have anything to be mad about. This hasnt even been proven right or true, and has been circulated many times in many forms (this same rumor). Further, do you even have a use for an HDMI port? If so, it is that important to you for you to be "outraged" about? Why not just sell the 360 and buy another if its that big of an issue for you? And yes, you sound like a fanboy as well, straight out of the Sony PR meetings... And you have nothing to back yourself up, except what you said in your post... Sony is fine for doing the same thing with the PS2, as what Microsoft is doing with the 360 (as per this RUMOR). I dont care about how long after the console was released, why is 6 months any different than 1 year? 1 year from 2? Does an amount of time passing by make it ok for things, and not for others? The mentality for this argument makes no sense, and is contrary to popular practice among all CE devices as I have said.

thanks for proving my statement about "Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys". I am an xbox 360 owner and I could care less if you don't believe me I even gave you my gamer card. Add me as a Friend (pr0f is my gamertag) Send me a voice message tonight and I'll give you a threatining response. you are a ****** ****** **** *** **** in my opinion and I don't understand where you get off saying I didn't back up my findings. the PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING! did the slim-line PS2 NOT come out towards the end of the cycle? does buying the slim-line NOT make Final Fantasy 11 ps2 players SOL because of lack of HD support? has the Xbox 360 not just come out only a YEAR ago? what part of what I just said not have truth in it? once again I state this "Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys" let me drill this in your brain again "Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys". why is 6 months different than a year? we are talking about the slim-line ps2 coming out at LEAST 4-5 years now, it's 2007 PS2 was relased in 2001. xbox 360 has been out a YEAR. Why would I want to sell off something I JUST bought to have to upgrade to the same thing with more hard drive space and true 1080p support (yes i DO have a 1080p Samsung LCD). I'll lose at least 100 bucks in a trade like that. for what? because MS decides to release what the Xbox360 should have been in the first place? In FACT give me your Gamertag, let me add YOU as a friend and see if YOU have a 360. as for the mentality of the argument not making sense, i guess it's not supposed to make sense to a lemming.

If you read my stuff, I have a 1080p monitor as well, and guess what? It is the same HD that goes through HDMI. You are trying to tell me, that water isnt water if it goes through plastic instead of metal pipes.And again, if you read, I have 2 360s, and no I wouldnt want you on my friends list, ever lol... You are exactly what I try to stay away from... I want a fun, enjoyable experience. I want to be able to discuss things with people who have open minds willing to learn new things, not those who close themselves off from future change or learning. And again, I am not defending one company and downing another. I am simply stating the truth. Truth is... HDMI displays the same resolutions as VGA and Component. HDMI is different in that it uses HDCP for content protection (ie - unable to copy it by hooking up an analog recorder without an HDCP chip, as it will only display content that is HDCP to a display that has HDCP chips in it. And guess what else? Not all HDMI monitors/screens have HDCP int them, they are just HDMI connections without HDCP chips, which means they wouldnt play HDCP protected content either, even though they are HDMI). They can choose to use or not to use HDCP protection, as they have chosen not to at this time. VGA and Component video can be adapted using an adaptor (lol) to HDMI if that is the only input on your display (Which as I have said, I dont even know of a display that only has HDMI on it). Using the above reasons, there is no factual reason that is worth raising all kinds of chaos over the 360 adding (for compat and to satisfy those like yourself who think HDMI is something magikal) an HDMI port. You are simply making a small thing into a big deal.

I wouldnt want you on my friends list because you have your head soooo far up MS's *** it's not even funny. you sound like you are trying to sell a honda accord LX for the price of an EX, even though everyone knows the EX is better. this is why you are trying to explain facts that no one cares about and ignoring the fact that if I saved my 400 bucks for about ONE MORE month more I could have 100 more gigs in which to transfer my whole music archive onto the drive and be able to save Playlists unlike using the Windows Media Connect (which dosnt support playlists) so I can play my own music while playing games. on top of the the MAIN thing is outputting a Digital 1080p signal to my TV instead of an anaolog connection. You can explain for days on end about HDCP but in reality that crap will pan itself out as movie companies will want their consumers to experience their products at it's fullest capacity without downscaling due to copyrights just because it's not HDMI. These are the facts that matter, Re-read what I just said again. Save 400 bucks for one more month. Buy a 360 with cooler chip that I dont have to worry about overheat. bigger hard drive and able to save playlists (my MP3 archive is 30 gigs will not fit on the dinky 13gig available). these are my points. not something about HDCP which is a weak component in this argument.

Do what? .... And further, your MP3 collection is likely on your computer, where it should stay. It is easily streamed, and put into playlists, directly from the PC to the console.... There isnt a problem with "overheat" right now anyways, only a few consoles earlier on were defective, and some here and there like any electronic device... And it wont be out in one more month, anymore so then it would have been one more month from the last time this rumor was brought up. And further, if you want your "MPE archive that wont fit on a dinky 13gig drive" Why not just solve the problem by going out and buying a cheap 100gb drive, a usb drive enclosure, and bam, you have a 100 gb drive for your video/photo/mp3 on 360 needs, if you dont want to do it over the network from a PC. blacktorn - Yes, it could make the console quieter if they used a lower RPM fan in the console, since it would be running cooler. I doubt they would take it out alltogether, but its a possibility if they are able to make it run that much cooler..

EDIT - Btw, I seen now you said you couldnt do playlists with WM Connect, while thats not true. You simply create the playlist in Media Player, and it is synced to the 360 when you goto your music. Simple as that, I have playlists for various times, and diff ones for my wife and I, so I know it works.

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#3 nikefreak
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This is good news. Why are you guy getting upset? Thid doesnt effect you. Do you even have 1080p tv's? If not then you shouldn't complain, honestly. On top of that, it isn't even confirmed. Don't believe everything you hear.arab_prince
Even if they have 1080p TVs, it doesnt matter, as that doesnt mean those 1080p tvs even have HDMI inputs. HDMI + VGA + Component = 1080p, the same thing.
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[QUOTE="gurux2k"]I can confirm that the pic is real, I've held a prototype like that in my own hands. I can't confirm the size of the hard drive or that it is coming soon. I can also confirm that the current 360 is analog only. Therefore I doubt there would be a way to have an add-on HDMI cable that is HDCP compliant. The biggest advantage is that HDMI would offer HDCP, which basically is an advantage so owners of the HD-DVD drive won't have crippled SD output after HD-DVD anti-piracy measures are enacted in 2009-2010. The real question is whether or not they will offer an upgrade plan for existing 360 owners. I know that something like that is being considering. A simple update through XBL would allow the OS to recognize larger hard drives. They could sell this one as the new premium, and the current premium as the new core. Or introduce this new SKU at $399, eliminate the current Premium SKU, and drop the price of the Core. The problem with that is that the hard drive in the new Core pack would prevent them from dropping the price faster. The hard drive in the original Xbox was one of the things that ended up costing them a lot later on in the console's life cycle (maybe cause it was so small that it was no longer mass produced for anything else besides the Xbox)

I told everyone, and Microsoft told everyone, they do all kinds of stuff in their lab, so of course they have had proto units with HDMI. That doesnt make this pic real, nor does it change the likelyhood of it ever surfacing. And where did you read they are enacting the "anti-piracy measures" in 2009-10?
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360 sales are good, but they arent good enough to beat wiips3 at the moment... this is a good strategy for those not considering to buy a 360 to switch sides.. and if this story is true then im buying a 360. But imo 1080p is not as important for games as it is for hd movies... and as far as we know the drive is still regular dvd so its not that big a deal.davez82
None of it is. If you read my posts, you can easily understand that HDMI is no different than VGA/Component except it is digital. And as for "wiips3" the sales are showing the opposite, thats all that needs said. Further, even if the drive is a DVD drive, it can still display HD content from a DVD... A DVD wont tell you "No! I wont let you burn a file that is HD on me!" nor will it tell you "No! You cant use HD resolution textures and polyons, because I am a DVD!"... Thats just silly. A DVD is nothing more than something to store data on, it doesnt limit its use to only SD. The only difference is storage size and security.
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[QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="Hotwad"][QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="Hotwad"]

 "how am I biased? and where is your logic...take it to systems wars" - I am not the one who has the issue with something trivial, I am also not the one who cant accept truth and try to say its ok for one company, but not for another.Hotwad

ok this is all i have to say to you cause your getting old...first off true hd can only be done with hdmi...or else why would (if it is true) ms waste time making ppl buy a new console with hdmi if component and vga is fine. second the hd that is on component and vga is like everyone knows from ana or whatever, upconverted. sooooo to get true 1080p strait from the source hdmi is the way to go. obviously ms sees this by adding it. again if its true.... second i dont care what consoles you have, or about your wife and what shes got whopidy do good for her and you. and if you do not have an issue with somethign so trivial then why are you waisting your precious time defending something that is in fact..."so trivial"? thats what i thought. and cannot accept the fact for one company to another...umm i said sony has problems again..read my blog...but sony is not the one making someone who wants hdmi on a console pay another 400 dollars for it.  again covering my bases..if it is true.... now ms has had problems as well...as does wii...which i mentioned in my last post...anyway to the point...why are you blasting everyone that likes sony... which u did just didnt wanna go back and quote it calling someone strait out of a sony pr meeting? wtf? what was the point in that...cleary a biased statement...and it was not only that post...comming in calling me a fanboy as well? well ok whatever.... anyway point being anyone that comes in this forum and reads your posts and flawed, sad logic would know that you are in fact an MS fanboy and in turn are biased. thank you. i am the self declared winner of this stupid argument. now...take yourself to the system wars forum. good day.

I am not going to bother reading or responding to the rest of your post, as you obviously dont want to listen, read, etc. I have provided proof and you yourself can go get your own if you wish. HDMI is NOT TrueHD. TrueHD is a term that is used to describe a 1080p or "FullHD", "TrueHD", "UltraHD", etc. display, which is 1920x1080 resolution. It doesnt matter the "pipe" in which the data is delivered, it only matters that it is the resolution and the display can show said resolution.

i see i was right to proclaim winner since you had nothign to come back with..... :) till...next time

Classic foolish response... GL in the future, I hope you can learn more about these topics so you will be better able to discuss them next time. (Considering I debunked and explained why you were wrong in my very short post, and you can easily research it if you want, but you wont... You just want to spout things like you have been with nothing to back it up, and simply because I tire of trying to persuade some of you to listen to reason and truth, doesnt mean I am wrong, it simply means I have run out of patience and am trying to do the adult thing and just wish you luck in the future).

nothing to back up..i believe you were the one that chose to ignore nor address my valid points and statements and just make argue wth what you could. where as i took everythign you said and made point to it....where as you always found soemthign else to argue back with in true manipulative from.

No, I am not going to sit and read over and over the same nonsense. I have told you, your points you are trying to make is based on inaccurate knowledge that HDMI can do something that VGA/Component cant. As I have said, water that goes through plastic pipes vs metal pipes is still water. The pipe in which you transmit data is not the discerning factor, it is the data that is being transmitted, as both pipes are able to transmit the same signal, one just protected with hdcp and is digital, and the other isnt protected and is analog. Case over.
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[QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="eatmyjunx"][QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="degobah77"]This is complete BS and a slap in the face to all those that supported MS by buying the console when it was released.eatmyjunx
Oh get real... Get off your whine wagons and realize, Sony has done this for YEARS, Nintendo has done it for YEARS, There is nothing wrong with Microsoft improving the hardware as time goes on, and it becomes cheaper to make (Hence how they are able to NOW put larger drives and HDMI, if this is true, and they couldnt then. Its the COST, which they are making over 100.00 per console atm, so they can improve things and still make a profit. But yes, before you all go around screaming and toting guns, think about it logically... How many versions of the GB Advance were there? PS2? PS1? Gameboy? N64? (Colors mainly) Gamecube? (At least 2, as one has the ability to do EDTV, one doesnt (the newer ones removed the port to save money)... So if you get my point, nothing new, and you guys are obviously either Sony fanboys trying to puff up something trivial to whine about, or just people complaining because they dont always get whatever everyone else gets. If you want the new console THAT badly, then its YOUR responsibility to sell yours and go get another. No one elses.

the point is you need to **** *** **** **. I just bought an xbox 360 and now im ******* PISSED! Sony re-made a PS2 into a slim-line with the addons towards the END of the cycle of the ps2, the x360 still has 4-5 years left in the cycle. There is a WORLD of diffence between the two, make no mistake about it. See this is the problem with so many Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys. How do they Do it? I mean it's not like you guys are getting paid to do it. you guys are Consumers. News like this is SUPPOSEd to piss you off. dosn't make sense. If you don't believe me, my gamercard is "pr0f" I own the crappy overrated Gears of War and Madden 07 (and geometry wars)

You dont even have anything to be mad about. This hasnt even been proven right or true, and has been circulated many times in many forms (this same rumor). Further, do you even have a use for an HDMI port? If so, it is that important to you for you to be "outraged" about? Why not just sell the 360 and buy another if its that big of an issue for you? And yes, you sound like a fanboy as well, straight out of the Sony PR meetings... And you have nothing to back yourself up, except what you said in your post... Sony is fine for doing the same thing with the PS2, as what Microsoft is doing with the 360 (as per this RUMOR). I dont care about how long after the console was released, why is 6 months any different than 1 year? 1 year from 2? Does an amount of time passing by make it ok for things, and not for others? The mentality for this argument makes no sense, and is contrary to popular practice among all CE devices as I have said.

thanks for proving my statement about "Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys". I am an xbox 360 owner and I could care less if you don't believe me I even gave you my gamer card. Add me as a Friend (pr0f is my gamertag) Send me a voice message tonight and I'll give you a threatining response. you are a ****** ****** **** *** **** in my opinion and I don't understand where you get off saying I didn't back up my findings. the PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING! did the slim-line PS2 NOT come out towards the end of the cycle? does buying the slim-line NOT make Final Fantasy 11 ps2 players SOL because of lack of HD support? has the Xbox 360 not just come out only a YEAR ago? what part of what I just said not have truth in it? once again I state this "Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys" let me drill this in your brain again "Xbox Fanboys defending Microsoft, not only does Microsoft own a monopoly on almost everything PCs, they also monopolize peoples brains, especially x-box fanboys". why is 6 months different than a year? we are talking about the slim-line ps2 coming out at LEAST 4-5 years now, it's 2007 PS2 was relased in 2001. xbox 360 has been out a YEAR. Why would I want to sell off something I JUST bought to have to upgrade to the same thing with more hard drive space and true 1080p support (yes i DO have a 1080p Samsung LCD). I'll lose at least 100 bucks in a trade like that. for what? because MS decides to release what the Xbox360 should have been in the first place? In FACT give me your Gamertag, let me add YOU as a friend and see if YOU have a 360. as for the mentality of the argument not making sense, i guess it's not supposed to make sense to a lemming.

If you read my stuff, I have a 1080p monitor as well, and guess what? It is the same HD that goes through HDMI. You are trying to tell me, that water isnt water if it goes through plastic instead of metal pipes.And again, if you read, I have 2 360s, and no I wouldnt want you on my friends list, ever lol... You are exactly what I try to stay away from... I want a fun, enjoyable experience. I want to be able to discuss things with people who have open minds willing to learn new things, not those who close themselves off from future change or learning. And again, I am not defending one company and downing another. I am simply stating the truth. Truth is... HDMI displays the same resolutions as VGA and Component. HDMI is different in that it uses HDCP for content protection (ie - unable to copy it by hooking up an analog recorder without an HDCP chip, as it will only display content that is HDCP to a display that has HDCP chips in it. And guess what else? Not all HDMI monitors/screens have HDCP int them, they are just HDMI connections without HDCP chips, which means they wouldnt play HDCP protected content either, even though they are HDMI). They can choose to use or not to use HDCP protection, as they have chosen not to at this time. VGA and Component video can be adapted using an adaptor (lol) to HDMI if that is the only input on your display (Which as I have said, I dont even know of a display that only has HDMI on it). Using the above reasons, there is no factual reason that is worth raising all kinds of chaos over the 360 adding (for compat and to satisfy those like yourself who think HDMI is something magikal) an HDMI port. You are simply making a small thing into a big deal.
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[QUOTE="nikefreak"][QUOTE="Hotwad"]

 "how am I biased? and where is your logic...take it to systems wars" - I am not the one who has the issue with something trivial, I am also not the one who cant accept truth and try to say its ok for one company, but not for another.Hotwad

ok this is all i have to say to you cause your getting old...first off true hd can only be done with hdmi...or else why would (if it is true) ms waste time making ppl buy a new console with hdmi if component and vga is fine. second the hd that is on component and vga is like everyone knows from ana or whatever, upconverted. sooooo to get true 1080p strait from the source hdmi is the way to go. obviously ms sees this by adding it. again if its true.... second i dont care what consoles you have, or about your wife and what shes got whopidy do good for her and you. and if you do not have an issue with somethign so trivial then why are you waisting your precious time defending something that is in fact..."so trivial"? thats what i thought. and cannot accept the fact for one company to another...umm i said sony has problems again..read my blog...but sony is not the one making someone who wants hdmi on a console pay another 400 dollars for it.  again covering my bases..if it is true.... now ms has had problems as well...as does wii...which i mentioned in my last post...anyway to the point...why are you blasting everyone that likes sony... which u did just didnt wanna go back and quote it calling someone strait out of a sony pr meeting? wtf? what was the point in that...cleary a biased statement...and it was not only that post...comming in calling me a fanboy as well? well ok whatever.... anyway point being anyone that comes in this forum and reads your posts and flawed, sad logic would know that you are in fact an MS fanboy and in turn are biased. thank you. i am the self declared winner of this stupid argument. now...take yourself to the system wars forum. good day.

I am not going to bother reading or responding to the rest of your post, as you obviously dont want to listen, read, etc. I have provided proof and you yourself can go get your own if you wish. HDMI is NOT TrueHD. TrueHD is a term that is used to describe a 1080p or "FullHD", "TrueHD", "UltraHD", etc. display, which is 1920x1080 resolution. It doesnt matter the "pipe" in which the data is delivered, it only matters that it is the resolution and the display can show said resolution.

i see i was right to proclaim winner since you had nothign to come back with..... :) till...next time

Classic foolish response... GL in the future, I hope you can learn more about these topics so you will be better able to discuss them next time. (Considering I debunked and explained why you were wrong in my very short post, and you can easily research it if you want, but you wont... You just want to spout things like you have been with nothing to back it up, and simply because I tire of trying to persuade some of you to listen to reason and truth, doesnt mean I am wrong, it simply means I have run out of patience and am trying to do the adult thing and just wish you luck in the future).
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[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]Nikefreak, I bet you started posting on this thread with a post count of zero :P every second post my lord! All good stuff though. I hear what you are saying about standard DVD's being able to store HD content, but they are not comparable to an actual 1080p film at a really nice bitrate using H.264. Also, for standard DVD's to play HD content you would need a computer to to play it as the current DVD players on the market don't have the horsepower to handle HD content. They were testing PC Blu Ray players and the 360 HD DVD drive on PC's and it was determined that you need a Core 2 Duo X6800 and a GeForce 8800GTX to get it to run optimally, so if that's the case everyone needs $2400 computers just to this. Even the T2: Extreme Edition you mentioned requires a 3Ghz processor, a handful of ram and at least a 128MB DX9 graphics card and that disc came out 3 years ago and the high def playback was limited to PC's. There is definitely a need for a new medium if we want optimal HD content. And lastly to anyone who is complaining about HDMI potentially being added and that MS is screwing people over....what should the people that purchased an HD set a couple of years ago do when they discover their TV isn't HDCP compliant? Do they have a right to get a new TV? No. That is the just the unfortunate reality of being an early adopter....you understand that by having the advantage of getting things early, you give up getting newer tech down the road, unless of course you pay for it. No here has yet made a convincing argument about why they need HDMI at this very moment. It just seems that most people want it cause it's new and their TV has a corresponding input.

Great post finally! :) lol, no i had a few before but ;p Anyways, yes, DVD can store and display the same quality content as either HD-DVD or BluRay, the only thing that it cannot do is store as much data as those formats. But you can in fact put the same quality file on a DVD as you can on HD-DVD or BluRay, you would just need a dual layer disc to store the larger file for a full film. And no, you dont need that crazy of a PC to playback this... I have an AMD Athlon XP 3100+, 2gb ram (Had 1gb before, was fine), and an nvidia 6800 non-ultra with 128mb.. This setup runs HD fine, with the exception of 1080p which gets a bit choppy. However, that would be easily resolved using a better video card or faster CPU. Now, as far as PC playback is concerned, you would also have the same constraints regardless if the data is stored on DVD, CD, HD-DVD or BluRay. As the constraint isnt the format or its bandwidth that is the problem, its the data processing capability of a PC to decode and display that high of a bitrate video/audio stream. But yes, HD-DVD and BluRay do have more space, which allows then to put more video on a disc, but nothing else changed other than security features, and some possible interactive elements (Which could be done on existing dvds as well, but no devices have that functionality so it wouldnt matter lol).
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 "how am I biased? and where is your logic...take it to systems wars" - I am not the one who has the issue with something trivial, I am also not the one who cant accept truth and try to say its ok for one company, but not for another.Hotwad

ok this is all i have to say to you cause your getting old...first off true hd can only be done with hdmi...or else why would (if it is true) ms waste time making ppl buy a new console with hdmi if component and vga is fine. second the hd that is on component and vga is like everyone knows from ana or whatever, upconverted. sooooo to get true 1080p strait from the source hdmi is the way to go. obviously ms sees this by adding it. again if its true.... second i dont care what consoles you have, or about your wife and what shes got whopidy do good for her and you. and if you do not have an issue with somethign so trivial then why are you waisting your precious time defending something that is in fact..."so trivial"? thats what i thought. and cannot accept the fact for one company to another...umm i said sony has problems again..read my blog...but sony is not the one making someone who wants hdmi on a console pay another 400 dollars for it.  again covering my bases..if it is true.... now ms has had problems as well...as does wii...which i mentioned in my last post...anyway to the point...why are you blasting everyone that likes sony... which u did just didnt wanna go back and quote it calling someone strait out of a sony pr meeting? wtf? what was the point in that...cleary a biased statement...and it was not only that post...comming in calling me a fanboy as well? well ok whatever.... anyway point being anyone that comes in this forum and reads your posts and flawed, sad logic would know that you are in fact an MS fanboy and in turn are biased. thank you. i am the self declared winner of this stupid argument. now...take yourself to the system wars forum. good day.

I am not going to bother reading or responding to the rest of your post, as you obviously dont want to listen, read, etc. I have provided proof and you yourself can go get your own if you wish. HDMI is NOT TrueHD. TrueHD is a term that is used to describe a 1080p or "FullHD", "TrueHD", "UltraHD", etc. display, which is 1920x1080 resolution. It doesnt matter the "pipe" in which the data is delivered, it only matters that it is the resolution and the display can show said resolution.