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#1 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="daveyf03"]

As of late, I am not even sure it is the worst console this generation.

jimkabrhel

Yeah I mean this year it had.... oh right.. it had nothing.

One year, at the end of the console's life does not define the console itself.

true, but these huge droughts are not exactly positive either. I'm not saying it's the worst console ever, that's not close to being true, but its library is lacking compared to the PS3 or the 360.

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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] It looks much closer to Beyond the Labyrinth than it does Drake's Fortune.PurpleMan5000

Lol, no.

Beyond the Labyrinth looks amazing, love the artstyle, but let's not compare this to VITA games.

Let's not compare Uncharted: Golden Abyss to Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. They aren't even close. It is much better than Beyond the Labyrinth, though.

I disagree, it looks pretty close, especially on the VITA oled screen, but let's just agree to disagree, and please don't post **** overblown screens to prove your point.

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#3 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="jamejame"]

No. Uncharted: Golden Abyss looks close to Drake's Fortune on the PS3. If thats not handheld graphics king I don't know what is.

PurpleMan5000

It looks much closer to Beyond the Labyrinth than it does Drake's Fortune.

Lol, no.

Beyond the Labyrinth looks amazing, love the artstyle, but let's not compare this to VITA games.

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#4 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="abuabed"]Vita because I know Monster Hunter is coming for it.charizard1605
It might actually be coming for the 3DS this time around.

exclusively? not gonna happen. I think they'll each have a different MH game.

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#5 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Hardly. Blind fanboys may have followed the PSP, but it was too expensive and had horrible support. I think the Vita is in a much better postion in terms or price and support, than the PSP was at launch.

And really that depends on how you judge success. If youre going to say ohhhh it made a profit, its a success then fine. But to me, if it fails to live up to the DS success then its a failure, just like how the PS3 is a failure in comparison to the PS2.

Shinobishyguy

*Shakes head* Either you speak from ignorance or are one of those blind fanboys you are complaining about. The PSP was not only good hardware, but had strong software support out of the gate (whereas the DS launched with a rehash of Mario 64, the PSP's large launch line-up included Luminees, Wipeout Pure, Twisted Metal: Head On and Ridge Racer). The PSP outsold the DS up until Brain Training and Nintendogs hit (on a related note, Nintendo openly acknowledges that the DS was its first Blue Ocean system though its worth noting that in line with past Nintendo handhelds, the DS attracted a wide range of gamers and developers). Generally speaking, worldwide developer support for the PSP was strong (many major franchises including GTA, Tekken andBurnoutreleased games developed specifically for the PSP) up until piracy really bit (roughly two years in). At that point in time Western and Japanese support melted away to nothing.

The PSP never really revived in the West (which is why to this day no one not named Sony develops PSP games for the Western market) but due to Monster Hunter, it did revive in Japan (which is why Japanese developer support for the PSP is at least at least as strong as developer support the DS and stronger than developer support for consoles).

I doubt the 3DS will be the DS because the competition is much stronger this time around. Nintendo fans tend to focus with laser like intensity on the PSP Vita, but they should be more worried about cell phones (which sell hundreds of thousands of units per day). Cell phones (some of which are in 3D) have gotten casuals used to paying a couple bucks for casual games (and there and thousands and thousands of people making such games). I question whether Nintendo can release a minigame collection on the 3DS for $40 and expect it to put up the sorts of huge numbers Brain Training did. Its also odd that Nintendo (as they have done on the Wii in the past two years) has neglected the casual market on the 3DS (there was Nintendogs+Cats at launch, but that's about it).

IMHO while chasing casuals is worthwhile because the market is massive, the 3DS and the PSP Vita probably will live or die based on the strength of their core games. Sony's idea is to offer every possible interface (dual analog sticks, touchscreens, motion sensing) and give it a generous amount of processing power whereas Nintendo's idea is glasses free 3D, which is a neat visual effect, but doesn't impact game design. Of course, fans of Mario, Zelda and Metroid will pick up the 3DS to play their favorite franchises, but will fans of CoD (which is a garbage series, but a popular one) and other multiplatform games prefer to play in 3D with one analog stick on in '2D' with two?

better question is why would they bother getting CoD on a handheld when the console versions already have a well established user-base?

because it might work, it might sell, and who doesn't like more money? If they actually succeed in creating a proper COD on VITA, I'll buy it day 1, and I never played these kind of games on a handheld before, so who knows, there might be more people like myself.

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#6 qewrewq
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Beyond Gravity Daze I don't know why people are excited about the games line up. If you're interested in Uncharted, theres that too. The hardware is still more interesting than the software line up to me.

Haziqonfire

because the launch lineup is never amazing, almost each and every system has had a terrible launch lineup, so when we see a few great games like Gravity Daze and Uncharted...it's something to get excited about. Also there's wipeout, sound shapes also looks interesting, seems like a lumines type game.

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[QUOTE="qewrewq"]

on the 5" oled VITA screen that difference isn't going to be that noticable, and the enviroments will definitely not look horribile.

PurpleMan5000

There will be more jaggies than there are in those screenshots. The textures, other than Drake, look no better than the textures on the Tomb Raider screenshots. The lighting is better.

Screen size is irrelevant. I'm sure if you hooked the Wii up to a 5" screen, it would look better, too.

yes, but the VITA games are developed specifically for the 5" screen and that's how they should be judged, Wii games on the other hand...aren't. Go watch some HD gameplay videos of uncharted, I did and there were hardly any jaggies.

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I think the Vita will end up having better graphics than the Wii, but Uncharted doesn't rival the PS3 like some people are saying. It will have jaggies. Also, the game suffers the same problems graphically as the RE games on the 3DS. Drake looks nice, but the environment looks horrible.

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on the 5" oled VITA screen that difference isn't going to be that noticable, and the enviroments will definitely not look horribile.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] it's actually been outselling the psp in japan for the past two weeks or so.Coolyfett

no it hasn't, he's talking about the NDS, not the 3DS (which still isn't doing so hot).

Wait? Are you sure? Well who is selling more the NDS or 3DS as of now what is the hotter system? Is it not the 3DS?

3DS sells alot more than the NDS (as it should, it just got released and the DS is saturated), but the PSP has been outselling the DS in japan for sometime now, even before the 3DS was released, and it's the second most supported system in japan by 3rd parties (after DS), so it's definitely a big success in japan. 17M LTD I think.

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#10 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]Oh boy. I was an early adopter of the DS (Phat version) and i have waited very long for the handheld to pick up. Its first year was very terrible, worse than the 3DS in miles. And 3DS is considered a failure. What does that make the DS then in its first year? A collosal failure? But it demolished the beloved underdog PSP later in its lifespan. Sigh... When 3DS becomes one year old i'm pretty sure this kind of thread will be long forgotten.Shinobishyguy

PSP has been outselling the nds in Japan for months now.

it's actually been outselling the psp in japan for the past two weeks or so.

no it hasn't, he's talking about the NDS, not the 3DS (which still isn't doing so hot).