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#1 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="tonythestudent"]Yes tango because your posts are always so full of insight, objective and always on topic :roll:tango90101

if you actually read them i addressed:

1. walmarts committment to low prices.

2. walmarts history of taking biz from other big box retailers.

3. walmarts history of hi def hardware.

4. NA and EU backing of hd dvd, giving walmart a market waaaaaaaay too big to ignore.

5. pricing advantages of hd dvd over bluray and how they fall in line with Walmart's philosophy.

6. the importance of hardware over software sales at this point.

yet, you ignored ALL of that, for "Yes tango because your posts are always so full of insight, objective and always on topic "..?

just. wow.

 

 

Most of those are extensions of your opinion. However, since you present them as fact and allow no room for debate, or the possibility that you may be wrong, you stifle any meaningful debate.

the fact you called them opinions just PROVED you have ZERO knowledge of walmart..

thanks...

i'm out for lunch...

c-ya soon...;)

 

I never said they were your opinions. 

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#2 ramey70
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[QUOTE="tonythestudent"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="tonythestudent"]Yes tango because your posts are always so full of insight, objective and always on topic :roll:tango90101

if you actually read them i addressed:

1. walmarts committment to low prices.

2. walmarts history of taking biz from other big box retailers.

3. walmarts history of hi def hardware.

4. NA and EU backing of hd dvd, giving walmart a market waaaaaaaay too big to ignore.

5. pricing advantages of hd dvd over bluray and how they fall in line with Walmart's philosophy.

6. the importance of hardware over software sales at this point.

yet, you ignored ALL of that, for "Yes tango because your posts are always so full of insight, objective and always on topic "..?

just. wow.

 

Then show us a link....

to what? walmart's history? wth...:lol:

you'll get the link that walmart is going to back hd dvd players primarily in about 6 months, if my estimations are correct, and they always are...;)

 

Like when you predicted that Fox and Disney were going neutral at CES 2007? 

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#3 ramey70
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In another point of irony,  Tango claims that you can't count Disney's support for Bluray because no Bluray movies are currently available with their brand as of yet.  However,  the Walmart/HD-DVD deal is to be taken as fact even though none are actually available for sale.
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[QUOTE="tonythestudent"]Yes tango because your posts are always so full of insight, objective and always on topic :roll:tango90101

if you actually read them i addressed:

1. walmarts committment to low prices.

2. walmarts history of taking biz from other big box retailers.

3. walmarts history of hi def hardware.

4. NA and EU backing of hd dvd, giving walmart a market waaaaaaaay too big to ignore.

5. pricing advantages of hd dvd over bluray and how they fall in line with Walmart's philosophy.

6. the importance of hardware over software sales at this point.

yet, you ignored ALL of that, for "Yes tango because your posts are always so full of insight, objective and always on topic "..?

just. wow.

 

 

Most of those are extensions of your opinion.  However, since you present them as fact and allow no room for debate, or the possibility that you may be wrong, you stifle any meaningful debate. 

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#5 ramey70
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facts that you don't know about equate to "opinion and conjecture" or "unfounded claims".... ?

interesting..

i've given you evidence why wally will move this way, but it's moot to you becuase individual movies sales are somehow paramount at the BEGINNING OF A ROLLOUT...

good gawd... :roll:

i just hope you have the courage to stick around here when they do announced cheap hd dvd players at walmart with chinese backing... i can't wait to read your excuses...

tango90101

 

You've given evidince to support your theory as to why they may do something.  However, you've presented nothing such as a company memo, sales receipt, executive interview, etc. showing that they have in fact been eyeing HD-DVD.   I'm not saying your claim is wrong, only that it can't be presented as fact.

 

In addition, why would I have to apologize for anything?  I've never made the claim that Walmart won't sell chinese made HD-DVD players.  I've only said we do not know yet and we should wait till it's announced.   Further, as a being neither a "fan" of HD-DVD or Bluray I would have no excuses to make.  I'm neutral if you've forgotten.

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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

it's got nothing to do with sony.. we're talking about hd dvd and walmart...

i can't find a link that says the sky is blue either...it must be false..:roll:

tango90101

 

When someone makes a claim that the sky is blue it can be confirmed with a visual observation to support the fact. However, you made a claim about how Walmart has been eyeing HD-DVD for some time now. This is a factual implication that must either be supported by verifiable evidence such as a link or article, not conjecture or hypothesis.

maybe because some of us are close enough to industry to already know this. Look, wally isn't going to stand by and let other big box retailers profit from a big ticket item when they can/will do it faster and cheaper. They never have. They won't here either. Now, with that in mind and remebering walmart's identity of "low price leader", bluray doesn't meet that criteria, while hd dvd players do.... low price.

rry, but not every bit of knowledge is on the 'net.... sorry.

go ahead, "own" me for not giving you a link that Walmart has been watching. i'll expect a formal apology and a little self ownage for you in a few months....;)

the numbers add up for walmart/china/hd dvd.. bluray? not so much...

 

So basically, it's nothing more than your opinion and conjecture.  I'm not trying to "own" anyone as I feel the term is childish and silly.  I'm simply interested in debate and thoughtful converstation.  Unfounded claims presented as fact do not lead to either of those. 

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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

They are already right now selling $350 hd-dvd compared to the $900 Blu-Ray ones like it says in the article.

 

tango90101

 

New non-refurbished standalone Bluray players can be had for $479.

at walmart?

No. 

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#8 ramey70
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it's got nothing to do with sony.. we're talking about hd dvd and walmart...

i can't find a link that says the sky is blue either...it must be false..:roll:

tango90101

 

When someone makes a claim that the sky is blue it can be confirmed with a visual observation to support the fact.  However, you made a claim about how Walmart has been eyeing HD-DVD for some time now.  This is a factual implication that must either be supported by verifiable evidence such as a link or article, not conjecture or hypothesis. 

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#9 ramey70
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Of course they are.  Overall they've posted a profit in the video game industry.  Until the PS3 wipes away every bit of success they have made thus fare then there's really no way to argue it.  Though I'm sure tango will try to.
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#10 ramey70
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They are already right now selling $350 hd-dvd compared to the $900 Blu-Ray ones like it says in the article.

 

Eltroz

 

New non-refurbished standalone Bluray players can be had for $479.