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#1 raspuns_24
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On April 13, 2007, It was my grandfather's birthday ( 68 ) and he had a seizure and fell off the counter at his house while eating and hit his head. They did a CAT Scan on his head to see if he damage his head and found a brain tumor. 2 Centimeters & Glioblastoma Tumor. The Doctors did all they could (Surgery, Gamma Knife & Medicine) and they gave him 3-5 years. He just turned 69 years old yesterday and we all celebrated his birthday.

Since last summer, my brother has been suffering from migraines and on Mid-February he vomited. Since that time, he vomited almost at least once, daily. My mom went to the Family Doctor after the first time and asked for a Cat Scan. They didn't give it to him. They sent him to a neurologist and he diagnosed him with "wrong prescription clas.sess" then, "severe migraines". On 4/1/08 - He had a severe episode and my mom went to the ER where he vomited severely a couple times. They did a Cat Scan and found a brain tumor. It was malignant and spread to the spine. They performed surgery on him and it was a success. He is starting Radiation next week. If he recovers, he will most likely have permanent double vision.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="123625"]How is wanting to be with God for eternity selfish?123625

Not being able to let go of your existence and acceptance of your ultimate demise.

So you have proof there is nothing after death? wow

So you have proof there is something after death? Wow

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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="raspuns_24"]BINGO! and why do people want eternal life?123625

An incredibly selfish desire for immortality.

How is wanting to be with God for eternity selfish?

People are selfish. Wanting immorality and never losing your family in a HEAVEN is selfish. I mean, you wouldn't even have to deal with banging your knees in Heaven. It's PERFECTION, it's like someone saying, "I want to be as wealthy as Bill Gates, look like Brad Pitt/Jessica Alba(Depending on Sex), and have the greatest personality and health EVER!". It's asking for perfection, not for, "I want life to be okay", you're wanting immortality, a HEAVEN.

So all christians want is eternal life... We don't want God at all? not even on a micro scale? Then we are not christians are we.

Yes, you are because there is no SET definition for Christianity. It's all by interpretation.

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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="raspuns_24"]BINGO! and why do people want eternal life?123625

An incredibly selfish desire for immortality.

How is wanting to be with God for eternity selfish?

It usually has nothing to do with god; he doesn't need anything else. It has more to do with the person's desires than god or heaven.

Christianity - heaven - God Christianity - hell - without God people are christians not because we are promised rewards but instead eternity with our God.

Aren't you dizzy from all this spinning?

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[QUOTE="raspuns_24"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="raspuns_24"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Heaven within christianity motivates people, because it promises you will be with God. This is what heaven in christianity is place with God. There are no other promises besides that. Oh an eternal life.123625

BINGO! and why do people want eternal life?

Because they would much rather avoid eternal death awayy from God.

Nice way of spinning it but you just brought this conversation back to my main point and proved me right. Funny huh?

you miss my main point, christians don't want to go to heaven for just eternal life, but they want to go and spend eternity with their lord and father.

No no no, I understand what your saying but I don't believe it.

I believe its a spin-off. You know it, and you can deny it here but you cant deny it to yourself.

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[QUOTE="raspuns_24"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="raspuns_24"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]Yay! You misinterpret me again! I said he was wrong in saying that Evolution is a fact. You said it right now, evolution is not a fact. It's a theory.brightshadow525


Actually I am not misinterpreting you at all... it is you who are misusing the word "theory" and "fact."

He misused A LOT of words like faith and morals.

Explain how I misused them. tell me. Yet again... More statements with no backing... *sigh* Your games are getting boring... I was staying awake just so I could get some sense into you... Obviously you are far too stubborn... I've tried my best, I pray that there's still hope for lost souls such as you. I'm also kind of dissappointed in myself because I couldn't get you guys to see the truth behind all of this... Oh well... I have learned a lot though - mainly that atheists are more stubborn than Christians... I'll stay for your final remarks but after that I'm going to sleep... I've had enough of this. I'm GOING TO CHURCH in the morning... Need to get some sleep. Peace be with you brothas.

lol, I'm not atheist, I'm Agnostic. So you lose.

Oh... You're cool... More reasons for me to not stay... *sigh* Enough is enough, I'm out.

lol, are you like 14 years old? It's ok dude, wait till you get to college. Maybe then you'll that edumacation that George Bush is talking about.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="raspuns_24"]BINGO! and why do people want eternal life?123625

An incredibly selfish desire for immortality.

How is wanting to be with God for eternity selfish?

No, you miss the point. See, your spinning everything that is said.

You know this, too.

People who want to be with God are people that are afraid to die. It's the reason of religion.

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[QUOTE="raspuns_24"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Heaven within christianity motivates people, because it promises you will be with God. This is what heaven in christianity is place with God. There are no other promises besides that. Oh an eternal life.123625

BINGO! and why do people want eternal life?

Because they would much rather avoid eternal death awayy from God.

Nice way of spinning it but you just brought this conversation back to my main point and proved me right. Funny huh?

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[QUOTE="raspuns_24"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]Yay! You misinterpret me again! I said he was wrong in saying that Evolution is a fact. You said it right now, evolution is not a fact. It's a theory.brightshadow525


Actually I am not misinterpreting you at all... it is you who are misusing the word "theory" and "fact."

He misused A LOT of words like faith and morals.

Explain how I misused them. tell me. Yet again... More statements with no backing... *sigh* Your games are getting boring... I was staying awake just so I could get some sense into you... Obviously you are far too stubborn... I've tried my best, I pray that there's still hope for lost souls such as you. I'm also kind of dissappointed in myself because I couldn't get you guys to see the truth behind all of this... Oh well... I have learned a lot though - mainly that atheists are more stubborn than Christians... I'll stay for your final remarks but after that I'm going to sleep... I've had enough of this. I'm GOING TO CHURCH in the morning... Need to get some sleep. Peace be with you brothas.

lol, I'm not atheist, I'm Agnostic. So you lose.

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[QUOTE="raspuns_24"]BINGO! and why do people want eternal life?foxhound_fox

An incredibly selfish desire for immortality.

HENCE THE TRUTH! Thank You, have a nice day. :D