[QUOTE="raspuns_24"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]

I don't get it... So what are the personal beliefs that are preventing you from believing in God - how come you can't choose to believe in God...?

battlefront23

Because one needs emperical evidence.... If some one said that there were a boogey man in the closet, most rational people would need proof.. The belief of god does not affect your character, morals, or thought process in any way so there is no real reason in just believeing in the being.

:| Did you just say that...?

Yes I did.. And its correct.. Want proof.. Alright.. Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle proved this.. That god does not create morals our society does.. Why don't you read in philosophy to realize that god did not gave man the ability to choose right from wrong, we did. And that right form wrong changes in culture CONSTANTLY.. Take older civilizations, nudity and sexuality is completely fine as a comfortable topic.. In The US, any hint of it causes huge contraversy due to how uptight our culture is on it.. If yoru Chrisitan for isntance you will realize that every single moral platform was already written in the workds of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

The Ten Commandments were before thos guys though...

The Ten Commandments have been edited so whats your point?

no they haven't...

Yes, yes they have. As far as interpretation goes. It has.

[QUOTE="raspuns_24"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]

I don't get it... So what are the personal beliefs that are preventing you from believing in God - how come you can't choose to believe in God...?

brightshadow525

Because one needs emperical evidence.... If some one said that there were a boogey man in the closet, most rational people would need proof.. The belief of god does not affect your character, morals, or thought process in any way so there is no real reason in just believeing in the being.

:| Did you just say that...?

Well, considering that Christians commit murder more times than Atheist. I would say he is right.

Stop. Alleged Christians murder. The majority of America is "Christian". They could just go to church once a year or just say they're Christian, doesn't mean that they really are.

Anyone can be a Christian. It's not hard. You can just call yourself a Christian. It's that simple. No Church is required. It's just a bunch of people who are denial about death so they need to feel better. That's Christianity.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]

I don't get it... So what are the personal beliefs that are preventing you from believing in God - how come you can't choose to believe in God...?

brightshadow525

Because one needs emperical evidence.... If some one said that there were a boogey man in the closet, most rational people would need proof.. The belief of god does not affect your character, morals, or thought process in any way so there is no real reason in just believeing in the being.

:| Did you just say that...?

Yes I did.. And its correct.. Want proof.. Alright.. Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle proved this.. That god does not create morals our society does.. Why don't you read in philosophy to realize that god did not gave man the ability to choose right from wrong, we did. And that right form wrong changes in culture CONSTANTLY.. Take older civilizations, nudity and sexuality is completely fine as a comfortable topic.. In The US, any hint of it causes huge contraversy due to how uptight our culture is on it.. If yoru Chrisitan for isntance you will realize that every single moral platform was already written in the workds of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

My morals come from THE BIBLE. Honestly, what are you talking about?

That's a lie. If you never read the Bible before and someone gave you a gun and said here go shoot people for fun. You'll do it because Morals come from the Bible?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]

I don't get it... So what are the personal beliefs that are preventing you from believing in God - how come you can't choose to believe in God...?

battlefront23

Because one needs emperical evidence.... If some one said that there were a boogey man in the closet, most rational people would need proof.. The belief of god does not affect your character, morals, or thought process in any way so there is no real reason in just believeing in the being.

:| Did you just say that...?

Yes I did.. And its correct.. Want proof.. Alright.. Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle proved this.. That god does not create morals our society does.. Why don't you read in philosophy to realize that god did not gave man the ability to choose right from wrong, we did. And that right form wrong changes in culture CONSTANTLY.. Take older civilizations, nudity and sexuality is completely fine as a comfortable topic.. In The US, any hint of it causes huge contraversy due to how uptight our culture is on it.. If yoru Chrisitan for isntance you will realize that every single moral platform was already written in the workds of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

The Ten Commandments were before thos guys though...

The Ten Commandments have been edited so whats your point?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]

I don't get it... So what are the personal beliefs that are preventing you from believing in God - how come you can't choose to believe in God...?

brightshadow525

Because one needs emperical evidence.... If some one said that there were a boogey man in the closet, most rational people would need proof.. The belief of god does not affect your character, morals, or thought process in any way so there is no real reason in just believeing in the being.

:| Did you just say that...?

Well, considering that Christians commit murder more times than Atheist. I would say he is right.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="raspuns_24"]

What happen to animals when they die and why don't they believe in God?

brightshadow525

Alot of animals have shown extreme intelligence... Especially primates. So I definitely disagree with this.

Uh... Other animals made computers? Heck, other animals invented farming? Nope. Animals don't have souls (excluding humans of course).

You don't have to make a computer to show extreme intelligence; however, Chimps are known for their tool making ability. Heck, what other animals do that?

[QUOTE="AnimeHendrix"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="raspuns_24"]

If you are trying to assert something based on absolutlely no fact, why can't I disregard it in the same way? To me, you seem to think your faith makes your right; it doesn't. It makes you blind.

brightshadow525

Ok, to me, you seem to think that a theory that talks about man evolving from other creatues makes you right; it doesn't. It makes you blind.

Here's what I like about science; if someone was to perform an experiment and able to disprove evolution, it would be thrown out the window, just like that. It takes thousands of experiments to boost a hypothesis to theory status. It only takes one experiment to throw that theory out the window. Evolution isn't absolute because by law science cannot have absolutes, otherwise it couldn't grow and develop. Now, look at you. Despite all of your faith, you cannot give one shroud of evidence that would make anything you say credible, yet you expect me to take you seriously, when you try and establish an arguement on superstition and heresay.

Ok first off... Your quoting was.... Ok, anyways... How many times do I have to say faith for you people to understand? Honestly. I've been saying that I don't believe in God because a scientist came up with %100 backed-up proof. I believe because of faith. The only reason for factual evidence is to reaffirm my faith, which I really don't need. I've had plenty of experiences that I don't need some kind of scientific reasoning to tell me whether or not to believe in God. And think about it, what are you gaining by NOT believing in God? Tell me. If you do, and by some crazy way, there is a God, there is a Heaven and Hell, there is a day of judgement, wouldn't you have wished you had believed in God...?

:lol: Your logic fails in so many ways because you don't understand what your saying. You don't understand what simple words like "faith" and "fact" mean. Therefore, when you try to connect them in a sentence, you end up looking...

[QUOTE="raspuns_24"]

What happen to animals when they die and why don't they believe in God?

wemhim

So what happens to animals when they die?

[QUOTE="raspuns_24"][QUOTE="stewiegriffin78"][QUOTE="FritzNietzsche"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"]

No... You know exactly what I mean... I don't know why you're making this more difficult than it should be... Christianity is a religion which believes in the fact of God.

stewiegriffin78

Sorry, but God is not dead. Whoever told you that was a liar. Even if God is not real (which He is, but you have every right to an opinion), He exists in billions of minds around the world. So He isn't dead...not to some of us, at the very least.

You just admitted that God is a figment of human imagination.

I did nothing of the sort. When I say He exists in billions of minds around the world, I'm saying that we have acknowledged Him...I can see where I was misleading. I apologize for this confusion. I did not mean to say at all that God only exists in our imaginations.

What happen to animals when they die and why don't they believe in God?