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#1 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]There are always going to a portion of casual gamers frequenting every site. But who is more likely more drop $50 on the latest fps? Who is more likely to buy a membership on a gaming site?

JordanElek

For the former, it could be either. Some of the most casual gamers I know love FPS games. It's one of the cross-genres, in my opinion. Halo 3 isn't as popular as it is due to dedicated gamers alone.

For the latter, dedicated gamers of course. But I don't think the $20/year membership fees provide nearly the amount of revenue as advertising does.

I agree that advertising is Gamespots primary bread earner, but the fps crowd in general is for the most part, not the crowd that is gaming on the Wii. It could have been, but third parties chose to put nearly all of their big fps projects on the HD consoles, and what this did was bring the fps fanbase to these consoles. That being said, Wii's install base is so big, that there's a market for every genre on the console, but it's certainly not what it could be. I think what you are mostly arguing is that the Wii has the potential to be a huge money earner for the entire gaming industry including sites like this one. What I am saying is that potential we are speaking of is not being lived up to due to the industries resistance to allow that to happen. It may come to a point where they either concede to a Nintendo run industry or face extincition.

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#3 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]People who frequent message forums or gaming sites are mostly made up of the hardcore gaming audience. This is the audience that Gamespot wants to please. Developers who put huge money into 360 and PS3 projects are Gamespots primary bread earner in terms of advertising. Take from that what you may.JordanElek

I think GS's audience is much broader than that. Sure, the forums are dominated by dedicated gamers, but we're not the only ones who visit the site. And the way the site is run just seems to cater to a broader audience than a site like IGN.

I can't really back that up with anything concrete and provable, but that's my take on it.

There are always going to a portion of casual gamers frequenting every site. But who is more likely more drop $50 on the latest fps? Who is more likely to buy a membership on a gaming site?

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#4 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]We are all members of this board. We shouldn't have to put up with this crap. You may not care enough about their reviews to complain, but many others do.JordanElek

What I don't understand is how the higher ups don't recognize the need for good Wii coverage. The Wii has a huge userbase, and any uninformed Wii Sports-only owner is bound to search the internet for other games they could play on the Wii at some point, and Gamespot would be the first to pop up in a Google search. People sometimes forget that GS is a business, but it seems like it would be a wise financial move to up the Wii coverage... maybe even *gasp* hire some people to help cover the load, since they're obviously lacking. The more coverage they have, the more site visitors they get, ESPECIALLY when the Wii has such a huge install base, and the more money they get from advertising to cover the cost.

I don't want to pretend to be smarter than the people running Gamespot, but their lack of Wii coverage just doesn't make sense to me. Forget this whole nonsense about bias... That can't change regardless of how users complain, because they're accused of being biased against and for every console.... It never fails. But user feedback can affect the amount of coverage. At least I'd hope so....

Sorry I'm reposting this due to many errors.

You have to understand that Nintendo is essentially taking on the entire industry right now and winning. Microsoft, Sony, third parties, the gaming media... everyone... and bias does exist to an extent. Let me explain.

Go back to the N64 and GC era, this was a golden age for third parties because they made games for consoles like the PS1, PS2 and Xbox, which were very flexible with third parties, and did not dominate their respective consoles with first party titles like Nintendo, which is why I'm sure 3rd parties were very pleased that a console like the PS2 had over a hundred million users. Even despite the Wii dominating this generation, third parties essentially held true to Microsoft and Sony's consoles in their business philosophies.

This kept the bulk of the hardcore fanbase on Microsoft and Sony's consoles, but the casuals and non-gamers (and of course long time Nintendo fans) moved towards the Wii and thus the divide. Needless to say, most third parties don't wish good things on Nintendo. Nor does the hardcore gaming community at large. Due to the economy, and the modest install base of the 360 and PS3, many third parties are encountering severe financial difficulties, some are even going belly up. People who frequent message forums or gaming sites are mostly made up of the hardcore gaming audience. This is the audience that Gamespot wants to please. Developers who put huge money into 360 and PS3 projects are Gamespots primary bread earner in terms of advertising. Take from that what you may.

Now add to the fact that Gamespot is likley facing the crunch of the economy right now as well, which is likley why they are severely understaffed. There are simply not enough Gamespot employee's for them to keep up.

Given all of this, which console of the three do you think is the one that's going to get shafted? Which gaming fans?

You guessed it....... us.

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#6 redfordo
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[QUOTE="blankshore"]

[QUOTE="redfordo"]

Let's hope The Conduit review isn't too late. I'm very interested to see how Gamespot scores this game as well. This is a big test for them in my eyes. I'm not sure why, but the hardcore gaming community seems to have this attitude everytime Wii gets a hardcore 'mature themed' game. There is no doubt that The Conduitis the best pure fps on the Wii from my time with it, but it's not without its flaws. Having said that, Gamespot gave Moh and Cod WaW solid AA reviews so based on the standards of the console, I couldn't see how this game would score lower.

12345yon

We've established that their reviews are inconsistant and soley based on personal whim, right? Well, keeping that in mind, they gave the game a 6.5:(

who cares about their opinion??? jesus -.- you play what you think is great, not what THEY say is great

We are all members of this board. We shouldn't have to put up with this crap. You may not care enough about their reviews to complain, but many others do.

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#7 redfordo
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To me it seems like Gamespot is particularly hard on the 'mature themed' hardcore titles on the Wii like Madworld or The Conduit. They are some of the best titles on the console yet their scores don't reflect that.

It's funny that the hardcore gaming community bashes Wii for not having games like The Conduit, but then when one comes, it's bashed across the internet before it was even released and it's review is met with much skepticism from sites like Gamespot.

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#8 redfordo
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If you like shooters, sci-fi, or conspiracy theories, get this game.

The online is great. The single player is alright, but flawed. It's one of the better Wii games, though.

I don't get the 6.5 score. If it were only single player, then I could understand, but a 7.5 or so would be more in line with what it should be.

BioShockOwnz

Halo 2 had one of the worst sp campaigns I have ever played in an fps but scored AAA for its multiplayer.

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#9 redfordo
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It's easily better than Moh or Cod WaW on Wii which scored AA.

RTUUMM

Wii games dont compete with PS3 or 360, so when a Wii game scores high it doesnt really matter much.

That made no sesne whatsoever. I compared it to other fpsgames on the Wii, which scored AA, but were not nearly as good.

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#10 redfordo
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It's easily better than Moh or Cod WaW on Wii which scored AA.