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#1  Edited By SelfReflect
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Also, this was a slap to the face of all consumers

This tells you that Microsoft doesnt care about you

They will not hesistant to OVER CHARGE you for their shitty products.

They will make you carry the burden at launch

Then drop the price when ever they see fit because they lied about their sales in their first place and so now need to make up more sales

Thats all this is

And I get that consoles get price drops all the time too, BUT how many get price drops a month after launching? Thats the issue here. Microsoft is just basically under cutting xboners and telling them, "hey too bad **** you"

But anyone who didnt see this coming doesnt know Microsoft. Microsoft has awlays been anti-consumer. Dont buy Microsoft's over priced buggy products, then we wont have to deal with Microsoft anymore

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This was a pathetic and desperate attempt from Microsoft.

Microsoft is in full on PANIC mode. I love it. Also tells you everything you need to know

The xbone hasnt been selling as good as Microsoft PR has been claiming. I was calling that from the beginning. Microsoft PR can NEVER be trusted

If the xbone were selling, they wouldnt have needed to cut the price. BOOM!

Also amusing how they have so little faith in TitanFall to sell on its own. TitanFall is just another boring FPS after all....

At the end of the day remember,

Microsoft didnt lower the price, because they "heard complaints" or "care"

Microsoft lowered the price OUT OF DESPERATION because the PS4 is handing the xbone its ass on a platter.

Microsoft is only out to extort their consumers for as much money as possible...everything being locked behind xbox live pay wall fees being a prime example of Microsoft's BS....Microsoft did this in hopes of $

Microsoft is anti-gamer. Proven again and again. No one in gaming has ever tried to implement always online and DRM like Microsoft tried to. Again, Microsoft only pulled the plug on their henious crimes against the consumer at the very last second due to losing pre-orders

Micorsoft doesnt care or react to gamers, Microsoft reacts to $ and sales...thats ALL Microsoft has shown to care about more then any other company. Microsoft is pure corporate greed. On the other hand, Sony actually cares about putting out great affordable products that people will love (the more powerful yet cheaper PS4, the amazing value of PSN+ etc)

No matter what, the xbone is still an under powered piece of shit with a mandatory kinect spy cam and secondary focus on gaming

Even 300$ would still be too much for an xbone

TitanFall looks boring as hell too. Its just another lame FPS...Call of Duty with mechs and pointless wall jumpimg....meh !

This wont work when its said and done.

PS4 will still continue to badly out sell the xbone in the UK...Sony isnt letting up and they are going to bring the heat and increase that gap

**** Microsoft for life. They tried to take gamers rights away and the xbone is STILL under-powered, STILL has a kinect spy cam, and is still NOT about gaming....TVTVTV etc

The xbone doesnt even deserve one sale. Microsoft needs to be erradacated from gamimg for all of their BS

Thank you for saving this gen with the PS4 though Sony!

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To build a PC that has similar performamce to a PS4, for the same price of a PS4, that also has 8gb of GDDR5 ram and a GPUGPU like the PS4 has...it would be impossible....

Power per dollar there is NOTHING out there that even comes close to offering what the PS4 is offering power per dollar

Just to build a PC with similar specs to a PS4 alone would cost you a fortune more then the PS4 does

PS4 is way ahead of the curve and is amazingly affordable to boot (thank you Sony)

The PS4 is WHAT the 360 was CLAIMED to be....

The 360 was never as graphically impressive for its time as hyped up to be nor was it as ahead of PCs as it was hyped up to be etc

The PS4 is.... and COSTS way less.....scale for inflation and the 360 cost about 600$-700$ back then...and the 360 didnt even have blue ray either and was still a little weaker then the PS3 ...

And now with the xbone, the xbone is a complete RIP OFF. The xbone is 50% weaker and 100$ more expensive then a PS4...

Microsoft is always fucking gamers over. **** Microsoft....Thank god for the PS4 and Thank god for Sony...Sony SAVED this gen....

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@melonfarmerz said:

When the Xbox 360 first came out, I was a huge fan and I've stuck with it for the past 7 years. Back then, the 400 dollars was crazy value. For that money, you were literally playing games that a 1000 dollar rig could barely handle. At that point, consoles were way better than PC's unless you had a 2000 dollar rig. PC simply couldn't compete.

I just actually read your OP

When the 360 came out, it never came close to rendering graphics that looked like the PC games of that time on high graphical settings

Where as, the PS4 today can render a game like Battlefield 4 that looks every bit as good as Battlefield 4 on a high end PC maxed out does

Factually, PS4 is wayyy more ahead of its time, then the 360 was,

And scaling for inflation, PS4 costs much less in todays time, then the 360 cost during its time to boot

(Hell, the 360 didnt even have blue ray and wasnt even more advanced then a PS3 lol....yet there is NO OTHER console more powerful then a PS4)

Lastly, to build a PC that has similar performamce to a PS4, for the same price of a PS4, that also has 8gb of unified GDDR5 ram and a GPUGPU like the PS4 has...it would be impossible....

Power per dollar there is NOTHING out there that even comes close to offering what the PS4 is offering power per dollar

Just to build a PC with similar specs to a PS4 alone would cost you a fortune more then the PS4 does

PS4 is way ahead of the curve and is amazingly affordable to boot (thank you Sony)

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This generation has been awful...IF you went with the xbone. Its under-powered, over-priced, comes with a mandatory kinect spy cam and has a secondary focus on gaming

IF you went with the PS4 (like the VAST majority have) then its been a great gen so far

-revolutionary PS4 share features that were built around gaming

--PS Vita remote play

-All the best versions of multi-plats are on PS4

-All them exclusive PS4 indies which arent on xbone

-All the free games given out over PSN+

-Sony with the PS4 has been ALL about gaming and has done gaming to perfection

Etc etc etc and I can keep going on and on

I love my PS4. One of the greatest pure gaming consoles ever. Been having so much fun with it.

Price for power the PS4 cant be touched either

The amount of power and features you get for a PS4 at its price is simply bananas

Account for inflation, and NO console has ever come close to the power per price ratio the PS4 offers.

And the thing is, the PS4 just came out. Yet in this year alone, there will be Infamous, the Order, The Show, Drive Club

PS4 is WHERE ITS AT

Dont get down on next gen just because the xbone is a piece of shit

The PS4 has been amazing and its future burns brighter then a solar flare

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Even I wouldnt say its a slap to the face of early adpators

BUT it is a pathetic desperate attempt from Microsoft to catch up with the PS4

Microsoft is in full on PANIC mode. I love it. Also tells you everything you need to know

The xbone hasnt been selling as good as Microsoft PR has been claiming. I was calling that from the beginning

If the xbone were selling, they wouldnt have needed to cut the price. BOOM!

Also amusing how they have so little faith in TitanFall to sell on its own. TitanFall is just another boring FPS after all....

At the end of the day remember,

Microsoft didnt lower the price, because they "heard complaints" or "care"

Microsoft lowered the price OUT OF DESPERATION because the PS4 is handing the xbone its ass on a platter.

Microsoft is only out to extort their consumers for as much money as possible...everything being locked behind xbox live pay wall fees being a prime exanple....Microsoft did this for the $

Microsoft is anti-gamer. Proven again and again.

Micorsoft doesnt care or react to gamers, Microsoft reacts to $ and sales...thats ALL Microsoft has shown to care about more then any other company

Even then, the xbone is still an under powered piece of shit with a mandatory kinect spy cam and secondary focus on gaming

Even 300$ would still be too much for an xbone

And TitanFall looks boring as hell too. Its just another FPS...Call of Duty with mechs....

This wont work when its said and done.

PS4 will still continue to badly out sell the xbone...

**** Microsoft for life. They tried to take gamers rights away and the xbone is STILL under-powered, STILL has a kinect spy cam, and is still NOT about gaming....TVTVTV etc

The xbone doesnt even deserve one sale. Microsoft needs to be erradacated from gamimg for all of their BS

Thank you for saving this gen though Sony!

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@gggoodboy said:

@BluRayHiDef said:

I think the XBOX ONE's current problems are analogous to the PS3's problems during the beginning of its lifetime and that the XBOX ONE will improve as developers learn how to code for it efknficiently.

What a completely idiotic analogy

The PS3 was still a little more powerful then the 360 was. But it was harder to develop for. It was harder to tap into the PS3's power advantage etc

Many didnt bother learning how to tap into the PS3, but when they did...especially playstation exclusive developers...you saw the results.

The 360 and PS3 each had different architectures too. So it was harder to port games from one to the other.

Since the 360 came out a year earlier and was easier to develop for, many developers just started leading on 360. The PS3 was getting the short end of the stick, until its sales picked up and more started learning how to use the cell etc

Its a much different situation today

Sony learned from that...

Where as the PS3 and the 360 had different architecture with 360 being easier to develop for

The PS4 and the xbone share the same architecture...the PS4 just has much more power to work with...and its easier to use its power too

The xbone is WEAKER AND HARDER to develop for LOL

Theres no secret sauce in the xbone. The powa of the cloud wont make the difference

The PS4 is up to 70% more powerful, while being easier to develop for

Plus the PS4 came out at the same time and is crushing the xbone in sales right now....Its NOTHING like the early PS3 vs 360 situation...

From the start, every multi-platform game was running better on PS4 with higher resolutions. Thats proves how much more powerful it is.

Most multi plat games were 1080p on PS4 vs 720p on xbone. Thats a HUGE difference. That means PS4 is rendering twice the pixel detail

Thats a huge difference just at launch, and that gap will only continue to widen for the PS4

Exclusive wise, Killzone looked better then anything on the xbone at launch...and The Order and Infamous BLOW away any xbone game we've ever seen

PS4 exclusives are going to look and play so much better then xbone exclusives, its not even going to be funny. There is going to be a bigger difference in graphics between PS4 exclusives and xbone exclusives, then there ever was between xbox and PS2

Theres no way around it, fact is the PS4 simply has the MUCH more powerful hardware, and its easier to develop for

Its time to accept reality.

If you deny that reality, then yes YOU ARE an xbox fanboy.

The PS4 will always be more capable and able to render much more impressive graphics

Any improvements the xbone makes in its tools, the PS4 will make in its tools as well and keep the gap growing.

Theres also the fact the PS4 has hUMA capability and GPUGPU while the xbone can NOT and will not ever be able to do either at the capacity the PS4 can

The PS4 is much more future proof.

As time goes by and GPUGPU becomes the norm, youre really going to start to see a night and day difference between how PS4 games play and look vs xbone. Xbone will be struggling to keep up. While PS4 was built to handle it

The kicker...the much more powerful, easier to develop for PS4 GAMING console with better exclusive developers and more support COSTS 100$ LESS

There is no reason for a rational human being to get an xbone when the PS4 exists.

Yep, to compare PS3 vs 360, to PS4 vs xbone is laughable

The reality is this.

The PS4 is significantly more powerful on a fundamental hardware level. There is NOTHING the xbone can ever do to close that gap IN HARDWARE.

The PS4 has a 50% more powerful GPU, a 32% faster CPU, much FASTER RAM and more of it to use for gaming. Thats the bottom line

People think the PS4 is only 50% more powerful. Its the GPU in the PS4 that is 50% more powerful (then the GPU in the xbone) Considering everything else, the PS4 very well could be upwards of 75% more powerful

Furthermore, unlike the PS3 and 360, the PS4 and the xbone share the exact same architecture. The PS4 just has much more power to use and runs much more efficently.

Under no circunstance is the xbone ever closing the gap

Its funny how "improvements in tools" have become the new secret sauce for the xbone

Like what was already said, any "improvements" Microsoft makes to the xbone's tools and kits, Sony will be making the same improvements in their tools and kits

NOTHING is closing the gap, and that gap will keep growing in favor of the PS4, due to PS4 being much more future proof with significantly more powerful hardware, thats also easier to develop for.

At this point, xboners are just refusing to cope with reality. Xbox fanboys truly are the most delusional

Also, the xbone will likely NEVER catch the PS4 in sales either. The only markets the xbox brand was ever able to compete in was the US and UK. Well, the PS4 is crushing the xbone in sales in the USA and UK while still maintaning its huge global lead every where else.

The PS4 is out selling the xbone 2-1 ....and continues to have record levels of demand.....where as the xbone is suffering dramatic declines in sales....

Just like the gap in power will continue to grow in favor of the PS4, the gap in sales will continue to grow for the PS4

The PS4 significantly out selling the xbone is a GREAT thing for gaming and gamers

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@aroxx_ab said:

The explanation is they looked at Wii and how successful it sold. Now MS trying it with less powerful hardware and add gimmicks...

Not only is Microsoft clueless, Microsoft has always been anti-consumer. Its good Microsoft is failing miserably right now. **** Microsoft. Playstation is all I need. Before xbox, there was playstation and it was better, it still remains better

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#10  Edited By SelfReflect
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*nearly out sold xbone 2-1 in America for the month of Janurary*

http://venturebeat.com/2014/02/13/january-2014-npd-playstation-4-extends-its-lead/

The PlayStation 4 was king once again to start off 2014.

Reports put PlayStation 4 sales at around 280,000 while Xbox One supposedly did around 145,000.

As for the latest official numbers. The PS4 has sold 4.2 million as of Dec.28, while the xbone has only sold 3 mill as of Dec. 31

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/174239-ps4-sells-4-2-million-units-in-2013-beating-the-xbox-one-comfortably

At CES 2014, Sony has announced that the PS4 has sold 4.2 million units as of December 28, 2013. Yesterday, Microsoft revealed that it had sold 3 million Xbox Ones as of the end of 2013.

As of December 28, the PS4 had been on sale for 43 days and sold 4.2 million units. By December 28, the PS4 was available in 48 territories. If we divide 4.2 million by 43 days, we get a figure of around98,000 units sold per day

As of the end of December 31, the Xbox One had been on sale for 39 days and sold 3 million units. By December 31, the Xbox One was available in 13 territories. 3 million in 39 days equates to around 77,000 units per day.

From these figures, it’s clear that the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One.

Even if you gave the Xbox One another week to catch up, to make up for the PS4′s earlier release, we’d still only be looking at 3.54 million Xboxes vs. 4.2 million PS4s.

The one gotcha is that the Xbox One is only available in 13 countries and territories, while the PS4 is currently available in 53 (it has been released in five more since December 28). You could argue that, when the Xbox One is more widely released, it will catch the PS4 in sales. Considering the Xbox One is already available in all of its major stomping grounds (the US, EU, Australia, Brazil), and the PS4 isn’t yet available in its home territory (Japan), I find it hard to believe that Microsoft will magically catch up.

No matter which way you split it, then, the PS4 is currently winning the eighth-generation console war.

The Playstation has taken back its rightful throne. The king has returned baby!

By all reports, the xbone seems to be suffering dramatic drops in sales too. I will get into that in a little.

But first things first, this is all such great news for the gaming industry, that the PS4 is significantly out selling the xbone. The correct message is being sent by us.

-The cheaper more powerful console (the PS4) is winning and winning big. This ensures that over priced, under powered consoles like the xbone will not be the norm

-When Microsoft revealed the xbone, it was set to include the most henious, gruesome anti-consumer policies in gaming ever i.e Xbone always online requirements and xbone drm schemes etc SO it feels so good to see that consumers have not rewarded Micorsoft with first place sales for their orginal anti-consumer vision at the detrimemt of consumers, and instead are rewarding the PS4 with big first place sales. By buying the PS4 in significantly larger margins we have currently put a stop to Microsoft's intended always online/DRM anti-consumer future

-Kimect is a spy cam and comes mandatory with xbone. The much larger sales of the PS4 say, we like having the option and choice to use a camera, and hey... we dont want the mandatory kinect spy cam

-This has also proved that the future isnt about the xbone's TV features, snapshot features, or the all in one marketing gimmicks of the xbone. Sony made the PS4 with the gamers in mind from day one. So the sales dominance of the PS4 is a testament to the fact we still want gaming. Sony is being rewarded for doing the right thing. Awesome! And thats is one of the greatest messages we have sent by buying the PS4 in significant larger margins! Gaming is what matters.

Anyway, by all reports, the xbone seems to be suffering dramatic drops in sales too. That makes me even happier. The xbone is a fad. PS4 is legit. Let Microsoft burn to the ground for what they tried to get away with (always online/drm) and for also still releasing an under-powered, over-priced, mandatory spying Kinect, spy box/cable box posing as a games console.

Thank you Sony for keeping gaming alive. Microsoft's future is a future where its all about TV/snapahot features, Kinect, and always online/DRM. As long as PS4 continues to sell out like hot cakes we stop Microsoft's intended future from ever happening. Lets continue to do the right thing and reward Sony for being good to gamers and for releasing an awesome, more powerful, cheaper, GAMING focused PS4.