I don't know about better than Jordan, but just because the dude didn't win the title this year doesn't mean he's somehow now a worse player. Jordan didn't win every year and nobody was moaning about how "oh well he stinks!".

Anyway the NBA is WAY too focused on Jordan in terms of what a great player is. I know some fan's can't accept even the suggestion but there are players who were arguably better than Jordan...

duxup

Actually in terms of finals appearance yes he did. every time he was in the finals he won PERIOD. And against phoenix and the second run against utah, the bulls didn't have home court advantage so believe it or not they weren't the prohibited favorite in every finals. I have no problem with people getting compared to jordan if it is deserved like oscar, bird or magic, but in this argument, or lack there of, it's not worth mentioning.

[QUOTE="sixringz1"]

I felt it would only be right to at least wait til after the finals to ask this question but now that it's over, i have a few questions

A) Were you just too young to remember and really appreciated what jordan actually did?

B) Are you just die hard kobe fans and want to believe that ?

C) Do you really believe that

There was a post less than a month ago entitled "Kobe > Jordan". I laughed ridiculously hard then, and it's not even worthy of a response anymore. Please, some of those who said that Kobe was better than Jordan, please enlighten me on what you were thinking?

Jinroh_basic

what happened? nothing. as an individual, Kobe is the best SG of the era, and is easily on par with Jordan, if not better. i said it then and i stand by my opinion now. don't worry about me, coz i'm not the one feeling insecure here, knowing that Jordan probably couldn't have done much if put in Kobe's shoes -- possibly couldn't even reach the finals, if you ask me.

don't get me wrong, MJ is up there among the greatest of all time. but he is also immensely privileged ( actually lucky is what i wanted to say ) to play with arguably the best lineup in the 90s. i'm not gonna take the jordan worshippers seriously, not before they stop chanting and start looking at the facts here -- facts like how MJ is really just another poster boy ( which the league has no lack of ) before Pippen joined the team; how statistically a number of current players have surpassed Jordan at the same age; and how MJ really has to wait in line behind more than half a dozen of HoFers for the title of "all time greatest".

Best lineup in the 90's. Do you know there roster from there first 3 championships. If you tell me that was the best roster of the 90's please let me know what you are smoking cause i need that. And comparing accomplishment by someone's age shows your lack of knowledge. You can't compare the ages of players that come out of HIGH SCHOOL to players that play 3 YEARS IN COLLEGE. You can only compare by total games played. And as far as your insecure comment, you might want to check that. I asked a simple question. I never critisized Kobe or anything, i just asked a simple question. Now you are all salty with your response. It's ok bud maybe next year.

This is kind of a moot point. You can't compare players from different generations but since you incist I guess I'll humor you.

1) Jordan was a better teammate (True)

2)Kobe has more raw talent (Close but i'm still giving the overall game to jordan. Jordan's outside shooting percentage, which is often what is brought up in this discussion, is a lot closer to Kobe's than people think. I'm talking just a couple percentage points)

3)Jordan had six rings being the main man (True, and that is the main argument)

4)Kobe has led a team that had less talent (For the second 3 peat yes, but people forget the roster jordan played with in his first 3 peat. Let me run that down and tell me how talented you think they were. Jordan, Pippen, Grant, BJ Armstrong, Paxon, Cartwright. There bench Stacey King, Craig Hansen, Cliff Levingston, Craig Hodges. Other than Jordan and Pippen that team SUCKED. Jordan made everyone of them far better than they were. That roster has no business winning a championship let alone 3. Every night they lined up they were outmatched at every position other than Jordan's and Pippen's, and they won 3 rings

5)Jordan took 8 years and was in his mid to late 20's before he won a title. (True)

6)Kobe was drafted out of high school and won 3 titles before his eigth year. (True, but shaq won those titles, kobe was just there to give some assistance when need be)

My point is you can go about this all you want but it doesn't make sense to compare players from different eras. It's like me saying Shaq is better than Chamberlin. It only makes sense when they are going head to head. Jordan is considered the best but eventually he won't be. Kobe's career isn't even over so you can't say he is better than Jordan or worse.

Correyov31

of course i can. Why can't I. I agree you can't compare people from different generations who have had similar accompishment throughout their career (ie, shaq and wilt). But it's not like Kobe and MJ are 30 years apart. Their career's were right after one another and kobe hasn't come close to accomplishing what MJ did. I would have no problem with the comparisons when Kobe is retired and you have a full body of work to compare it to. But what in the world has Kobe Bryant done to this point to be thought of in the same breath as Jordan

How cares what one person says!!! Wow u make it such a big deal! GET OVER IT!!!baseballboy6411

oh no. there may have been one person that made the post, but there were a number of people who hopped all over it and agreed. I'm just amuzed how now it's easier to find a unicorn than it is to find those people. Amazing

I felt it would only be right to at least wait til after the finals to ask this question but now that it's over, i have a few questions

A) Were you just too young to remember and really appreciated what jordan actually did?

B) Are you just die hard kobe fans and want to believe that ?

C) Do you really believe that

There was a post less than a month ago entitled "Kobe > Jordan". I laughed ridiculously hard then, and it's not even worthy of a response anymore. Please, some of those who said that Kobe was better than Jordan, please enlighten me on what you were thinking?

[QUOTE="sixringz1"]I use gamerankings for all my ratings. Why not get as many opinions as possible. But it is understandable that for THIS site you use THIS score. But for anyone who uses reviews to dictate their purchase of a game, and only uses ONE review from ONE reviewer, that's just plain stupid.arikkot

Not true if u use a reviewer that almost always has the same opinion as you. I only read GS reviews normally. I look at IGN's score and if it's very different I read their review too, but if not I don't even bother. Those are the only two sites I use, and I've never yet been dissappointed with a purchase made using their recommendation.

Think before you post sixringz

I know exactly what i said, i don't need to "think" before i post. You going to tell me that all the doctors and scientist in the world that are experimenting a drug or something use ONE subject and then come to their conclusion that it works or doesn't. NO, it doesn't work that way. They take as many samples and reactions as they can get and then form THEIR OWN opinion. PERIOD