@gotrekfabian: i dont even see the PC gamers buying the current PS4 or neo to play these games.....the list of truly only on PS4 games is very short......every time someone posts a list half the games only on PS4 are japan only games......out of the rest of that list 40% of them had PC version put out as sony did not make them and 3rd party game makers wanted more then just one market......to be blunt this could be a great time for PC gamers as the market and reason for buying console to play 10 games is going away really fast....on top of that 200 bucks will get you 5.5tf with a AMD 480......it wont cost more then 600 bucks in a year to build a PC able to beat the next consoles.....

@GregoryBastards: yeah i dont see it.....tons of people just in this comment section are saying they are waiting for Scorpio just to see how well it does VS the neo........at this point if you have ether of the current systems you DONT have to wait for games as you will be able to play them on the older version of both consoles......if a gamer is not missing out on games what will motivate them to buy a new system at all???

@Raizak: slim always becomes the new standard......were have you been for the last 20 years???

@Xristophoros: as always....

@sakaixx: or have the friend bring over his set......i hope they do local lan settings again.....

@cboye18: as with every thing it was better in the old days.....

@cejay0813: i was smart....in my stand i have a glass door on the front of the rack on the right side (one on the left as well but i took out the glass for my gaming PC).....i cut 2 holes at the bottom of it and mounted 2 200mm fans......then i cut out the top of the rack so air could get out.....everything including my ONE is quieter now.....at first i had my cable box at the bottom and never checked how much heat it put out....now its on the top of the rack.....

@troll_elite: it is when your talking about a console that needs to be made as cheap as possible.......what i would like to see is external HD support....then you could buy that SSD drive and use the drive the system came with as over flow......i would be up for this options but to see a 500gb SSD drive in a console yeah right dude.....next gen maybe this gen hell no.....

@jako998: yeah sorry dude if you had calibrated your old 1080p tv and then fed it true 4k content side by side you would not have been able to tell them apart........i edit for a living and have been working with 4k for almost 6 years now.....when the guys that film it cant tell me what monitor is 1080p VS the one that is running real 4k its a waste of money when you can feed that 1080p monitor true 4k content.....

@runstalker: that is what a lot of people are hoping for.....they wont care about 4k they will want 1080p at a real 60 frames out of the new console.....