@darksouls: would we have uncharted without tomb raider??? no..... no we would not.....

@fanirama: all i see is the old windows XP logo with flames coming out of it......that was funny!!!....."My PC from 2005 will catch fire".....HAHAH.....but on the flip side im still running a 7 year old AMD 955 CPU over clocked to 3.8ghz with DDR3 at 1600 and playing current games.....even on PC side the hardware is lasting a lot longer.....with what has been done in coding over the last couple of years and how well 10 runs for JUST GAMING i can now max out my 4gb 770 before i hit the ceiling on the CPU.....the CPU should be a bottle neck and was in 7.....in 10 the GPU is the bottleneck.....getting a 1070 with a good CPU could give you 5 years right now if your OK with a good 1080p screen.....and if the new consoles are going to be 500 bucks with 250 more in online costs for 5 years of PSN or LIVE you could build the PC for the same money or a LOT less if you have things like a case, PSU SSD, harddrives, bluray drive and cooling fans from you old computer......PC is still going to be the cheaper way to go.......i could go to a current i5 with a 1070 and do it for about 650 to 700 bucks right now.....

@Auction_Sniper: is it region locked???

@Daian: im not trying to bust your balls but i would bet you money right now a 1070 CAN NOT max out GTA5 on a 1080p screen with EVERYTHING set to max including population controls........having the extra level of hardware would do well for people going forward.....if you need a clue GTA 5 max out a 12gb titan at 1080p.....forget even trying to get a 144hz monitor in.......

@Daian: yeah "playable frame" just means over 30 dude......i only have a 60hz monitor and nothing to me is playable under 45 or 50 frames......if it gets to 40 on my screen its way to jurky to play......and that is on a 3ms screen

@TheZeroPercent: you live a sad life

@TheZeroPercent: you tin foil hat dude.....the contracts for the new consoles were signed by feb of 2015 and sony was the first to the table with AMD to make the new hardware.......BS yourself all you want but that is fact.......its also show as fact because AMD stocks jumped when sony signed the paper work.....at the end of the day MS controls 2 of the largest markets in gaming with PC and ONE.......if you look at the GAMES everything on PS4 has come out for one or the other with even "exclusives" like street fighter getting out to PC.......last fact.....almost 40 million PS4 in the world and the best selling only truly on PS4 game has just hit the 5 million units sold mark......great work sony......

@TheZeroPercent: then fix your own......ps4 is only 40% of the new console market???.......8th gen console list is PS4, ONE and wiiu......are you trying to say wiiu is 39% of the gaming market???

@runstalker: go look at nvidia web site on what it does.......then you will understand......your smart but missing parts....

@Faye_Tallity: how can i steal something i already paid for??? i still have those games on disc........to be blunt if they redo 2 it should be given to any one that got the game on PC......