@ixilion: its already the slowest selling console cycle in history......PS2 in the first 3 or 4 years was killing it......360 in the first 3 or 4 yeas did better.....they better come with something good

@DantheMan9856: who cares about what is legal.....do they have any morals in charging for games we bought and played almost 30 years ago???

@Auction_Sniper: yeah like the CD drives still work......you should have replaced the battery on the mother and almost half the caps on the board by now just to keep one running.....

@Alurit: PC's and parts from craigslist are the best....i have built i5 systems with 16 of memory and gtx 970 for all of 600 bucks from the stuff gotten off craigslist.....my pile of parts i had some of for over 7 years is still running fine and playing current games.....would you pass up a coolermaster 922 case with all the fans it will take for 25 bucks??? would you pass on a new in the static bag 3tb harddrive for 50 bucks just because it was on craigslist??? how about 3 160gb intel 6gb sata SSD drives for 80 bucks??? would you pass on a working 4 channel TV tuner that cost 200 bucks new right when its up for 40 dollars???........i did not pass on any of these.....

as for cheap computers to do steaming and able to run emulators something like this 40 dell would do just fine

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/sys/5544568179.html

@Zorlac: how is this going to bring more games??? the line up has been set in stone for at least 20 years now.....

@Simulator_Shock: i still find it funny they cant even get last gen games running on the new systems without a recode.......

@heavygavel: you can illegally......no legally......i had all of them for years....the funny part is about half the list was given away for free not more then a month ago....

@heydink: you know its funny PS4 has had better specs since day one and most games look the same on both systems....

@troll_elite: why would MS go after the main groups giving them the PC market??? they cant go against Origins, steam, Uplay or blizzard.....and im sorry but the first Xbox was a PC and so was PS2......the idea of making them cheap gaming computers has been around for over a decade and has been done even if you have not seen it.....

@greaseman1985: replying to everyone......one is kinda done right now......bad sales numbers not many games that are only on the console and really bad hardware to start with......im going to sell mine before it at rock bottom......already seen a ton of them on craigslist for a 100 to 150 bucks without games.....