@Malzius: i dont see true 4k coming unless its going to cost 800 bucks even then it maybe 2k upscaled to 4k like the 360 upscaled 720 to 1080

lot to this.....is sony does go ahead with 4.5 and makes a console able to run true 4k at 60 frames MS will have to play major keep up with the next console.....and then what about the contracts already signed with AMD for the next consoles that were coming in 2018?? both sony and MS said they have signed the paper work to start work on the next gen.....will the next gen be 4.5 and XB two??

@olddadgamer: for the most part yes.....but some new games were good.....like GTA3....

@jerjef: yeah im part of the test bed for the new DVR functions that are coming......if you want to record your going to need a external harddrive......you cant play and record tv at this point but they are working on that part

@fanboyzrtrash: and how many of these are NEW games???.......almost all of them are OLD game series.......want new not old made shinny......

@ice12tray: the first one is short but worth the play time.....the second one is not as good but its still a great game....

@Adam802: yeah no.....its better as a DVR then anything......if i want to play the old games i will get the old console out because it can play every game....

@overachiever89: they are doing the easy games first.....people dont seem to understand that getting a game made to run on a triple core running 3.2ghz is hard to get running on a 8 core at 1.8ghz......you cant split the data streams out to other cores to make the games run better......in the end all the games that are BC are being recoded to run on ONE.....

@Barighm: i want half life 3 SO BAD.......but what was going to be 3 already came out as the episodes pack.....i hope they do a full game.....its been what 10 years???