@charliegibbs: again it will sell when its under 200 bucks......with both being on the shelf sitting side by side a 100 bucks is not going to make people go for the older version of the hardware.....

@ngrcapyesterday: no most people do not buy apple......they are less then 18% of any market they are in including cell phones.....i dont think the computers have made it past 10% in 20 years.....

@ice12tray: that is just BS.....nothing before the 4 lasted 2 years......and to be blunt my free boost mobile phone i got 4 years ago still works has a quad core and 2gb of active memory......every one keeps saying the cheap droid phones dont last until they see my 4 year old FREE phone......

@bfeinberg: so you missed the fact it happened with iphones as well.....i think was iphony 2 that had battery problems

@kicks67: dude if you really look at everything most tech has not moved on in decades......if you really look at what a harddrive is you would see its a copy of a record player.....spinning disc info is stored on the surface and is played back with a moving reading head.......now that you understand that part understand most of the world info is on a almost 140 year old format......

its a gaming site......screw apple....

@jules__badguy: first no matter what your about to say those games were never free......second PS network just went up in cost......third forgetting these real numbers when adding everything up is like not accounting for gas when buying a car......so in the end im trying to find something valid in what you said......i already know 2 people that have about a grand in their PS4.....i played almost the same games and did it for about 800 bucks total with the prices of games included......so it was cheaper to play the SAME GAMES on PC then it was to play the same games on PS4......last the TRULY FREE games i get on PC will never cost me a penny.....you cant get to those free games without having the pay option for PS online so they were never free.......if you could get them without paying they would be free.....

@angrycreep: check the post below.....you had 3 games and none of the ones you listed were on that list of 1080p games....

@ProjektInsanity: wow your missing a lot....hardware changes every 6 months.....hardware also gets cheaper every 3 months even if you dont see it in retailers.....you can already build VR systems for 600 to 700 bucks now.....in a year a 4k gaming PC wont cost over a grand to build as the hardware gets cheaper......

@Vatusus: their is no full HD.....stop living with hype......both fall under HD......