@Gamer_4_Fun: optimization does wonders and that was shown in the videos as the pro only has 4tf of band width....

@draign: only found 3 games on 360 to get to 1080p........

Fifa Street 3, Virtua Tennis 3 and Boogie Bunnies......

take a look.....

https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/list-of-rendering-resolutions.41152/

@ProjektInsanity: im just going to be blunt.....i had many heated posted with sony ponies telling me the system would be 4k native......and power factors in to everything....if it did not sony would not have a new pro model.....i have both and think both suck as i play everything i can on PC.....a PS4 pro my get me to start paying for online......

@playstationzone: but what they did not tell you is the fact games wont look the same on both systems.......that was shown in the videos.....

@playstationzone: were do you get this BS???.....both are going to look better no matter what TV your on.....

@cboye18: yeah its going to do 2k at 60 and upscale.....that whole line of BS about 4k algorithms was code talk for upscaling.....

@arkhenon: its a better system then first gen PS4's no matter how i look at it.....at only 400 bucks its cheap to.....i was really thinking they would go with the 500 dollar price point and drop it to around 400 bucks when Scoipo came out.....MS is going to have their work cut out for them....lots of people at this price point are not going to wait for the other console......

@blackace: it so worth the extra 100 bucks to get the pro i dont see slims selling well until they are 200 bucks and under.....

@arkhenon: true 4k was never going to happen......upscaling has been the norm for years if not a decade already......

@Gamer_4_Fun: your forgetting optimization and what it can do ring out every drop of the hardware......a 480 wont do anything that well on PC because no one is programming for just it.....