@still_vicious: not only more money, but more employment, stems from having a degree

The absolutely hero worship of Bernie supporters is another thing I dislike about his movement.

@Johnny-n-Roger: Thats an easy one, US is now the biggest trade partner with Canada and Mexico thanks to that trade act.

NAFTA helped create 5 million new U.S. jobs.

Thats a long way from proof. Our most conservative poster remembers seeing a lot of them.

I don't disagree with you. Go back and read my posts before that one. My entire argument was that the government should give out loans based on major. I'm willing to bet that most of that 40% who are not paying either didn't finish school or got a degree in something useless.

No it is legit, I remember seeing a lot of them and reading similar articles when OWL was protesting Wall Street a few yeas back.

That may very well be the case, but it's a secondary problem in this case. Most people simply can't afford to pay back these loans. The cost of college is so damn high now it doesn't really matter if you intend on paying them back or not, the majority of people can't afford to pay back $60,000+ in loans. Once we fix that we can then try to fix the accountability culture.

.. I would argue it is beneficial for every one for college to be made incredibly cheap.. The fact of the matter is degrees statistically lead to people earning more, these higher earnings means they pay more taxes.. It also means they will be putting more money into the economy with the increased spending.. They also will be much more likely to buy property when they don't have such high amounts of debt over their heads.. Furthermore people are bitching about student loans being wiped out by the government would bankrupt it, student loan debt has yet to clear $1 trillion dollars.... The freaking pentagon "lost track" of over $4 trillion dollars in money since 1996.. We just wasted trillions of dollars in a completely unnecessary war that has made the Middle East even more unstable.. Where in the hell were these supposed fiscal conservatives when this crap came out? If you supported the Iraq War you have basically thrown out any reason for people to take you seriously if you claim to care about being fiscally conservative.... Time and time again these types have shown to be the most irresponsible with funds.