[QUOTE="skatefreak89"]Gears of war for the 360 was game of the year. Its praktically the same game, but the 360 version is waaay better. And I mean online, way more people play it online (stil) and the fact that almost everybody has a headset makes it very enjoyable. BTW the mouse and keyboad gameplay sucked. Porting gears to the PC was a big mistake.skrat_01

It was a more complete game on PC, but that doesn't mean that the game's real home wasn't on the 360. It just worked better with a controller on a TV set than on a computer screen with a keyboard and mouse.

How is Gears of War even comparable to a game like Unreal? They are so different...

Gears got GOTY for sheer kickassery, and being the first next-gen game.

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]HL2 gets more attention than it deserves.Zeliard9

I completely agree. The Source engine was a remarkable achievement, but in my opinion, "Half-Life 2" felt like one giant tech demo. People talk a lot about the story, but I found the story to be pretty irrelevant to the gameplay. I have not yet played the expansions, so I cannot talk about them.

One giant tech demo? Now that's a seriously strange way to describe Half-Life 2, of all games. How many games contain and convey nearly as much pathos as HL2?

A lot of games that actually have plots and characters worth following. Now, Half-Life 1 was completely different. It had a tightly paced story, and everything you did was integral to the plot. The basic story of Half-Life 2 is "Aliens! run away!"

It's a tech demo in that basically every single scene of the game is designed to show off some new aspect of the source engine.

HL2 gets more attention than it deserves.tomarlyn

I completely agree. The Source engine was a remarkable achievement, but in my opinion, "Half-Life 2" felt like one giant tech demo. People talk a lot about the story, but I found the story to be pretty irrelevant to the gameplay. I have not yet played the expansions, so I cannot talk about them.

Oh please... your pretentious demeanor smacks of a fanboy who took a business class and is trying to put what you've learned into some sort of biased conjumbled rhetoric. MS and Sony would trade places with Nintendo is a heart beat. Infact, MS themselves is now looking into taking a more casual route a la Wii because that's obviously where the market is at.gomanthethird

This is pointless. You have shown again and again that you have no idea what you are talking about. Both MS and Sony have business plans that will continue to make money for years to come. Nintendo's shareholders are probably happy right now, but the only way Nintendo can continue to be successful is to release a new Wii every three years. They aren't selling enough games for Wii to be a sustainable business venture.

Look at a company like Apple. They probably seem untouchable with the popularity of their iPods and iPhones, and they just might be, but they have to keep innovating or else someone else is going to come along and steal their profits. Apple is in a better spot than Nintendo since people are more happy to by a new phone every a few years than a new video game console.

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You seem to have a very limited grasp on what makes for a successful business plan. Immediate profits are nice, but the opportunity for growth is more important.

A business plan that makes money in the short run, but has no room for growth is not a successful business plan, not by the standards of a big multinational corporation.

Microsoft's business plan for Xbox 360 and XBL is a longer-term plan than that of Nintendo and the Wii. Wii has sold more consoles, that's true, but growth is very limited as seen by the small amount of games that are available for the system. Microsoft is banking on XBL making money for years to come. Hardware sales are not where money is made. Software is, and currently Microsoft is dominating the Wii in next-gen game sales.

Nintendo has an image problem that they need to fix soon, or they are going to lose out in the long run. The Wii is seen as a toy, while 360 and PS3 are seen as entertainment systems. As a "toy," Nintendo's profits are going to stagnate, while 360 and PS3 will grow. Growth is the most important thing.

gomanthethird

You really don't understand business. Multinational companies like Sony and Microsoft are not looking for quick profits. They are looking for long-term profits. Nintendo's current business plan will not work in the long-term.

Fastest selling is irrelevant if they are not expanding the amount of games available. Nintendo's potenial profit is limited if they do not change their approach, while Sony and Microsofts plans offer potential for unlimited profit.

Sony looks to be in last place, but they actually might have the biggest ace up their sleeve in Blu-Ray. HD-DVD is dead, and everybody knows it. Sony has the biggest opportunity for growth at this point, but you would probably say that they are dead in the water, which would show that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]

I'm not sure if you're talking about Nintendo or Microsoft.

Overall, I'd say that Nintendo is winning, because of DS sales, the number of Wii sold, etc.

If you're talking about this generation, I'd say that Microsoft is winning, because they have sold more games and brought in more total gross.

gomanthethird

Have they? I thought they lost money with the RROD or are you talking about M$ as the software company.

It's not meaningless when you consider that more games equal more console sales and more money brought in over XBL.

Nintendo is making more money than anyone. They're selling more consoles than anyone. They're selling more software than anyone. They're selling more portables than anyone.

Profit is not as big as you think, at least not right now. Microsoft is betting on future profits.

As many consoles as the Wii has sold, they are not selling a lot of games, which means that growth is limited.

Nintendo is, as a first party publisher, is selling more games than anyone by a country mile.

Growth is the most important thing, and that is where Microsoft is winning right now.

MS isnt winning anything. You want to talk about growth? How about passing the former market leader in under a year even when they had a year head start.

You seem to have a very limited grasp on what makes for a successful business plan. Immediate profits are nice, but the opportunity for growth is more important.

A business plan that makes money in the short run, but has no room for growth is not a successful business plan, not by the standards of a big multinational corporation.

Microsoft's business plan for Xbox 360 and XBL is a longer-term plan than that of Nintendo and the Wii. Wii has sold more consoles, that's true, but growth is very limited as seen by the small amount of games that are available for the system. Microsoft is banking on XBL making money for years to come. Hardware sales are not where money is made. Software is, and currently Microsoft is dominating the Wii in next-gen game sales.

Nintendo has an image problem that they need to fix soon, or they are going to lose out in the long run. The Wii is seen as a toy, while 360 and PS3 are seen as entertainment systems. As a "toy," Nintendo's profits are going to stagnate, while 360 and PS3 will grow. Growth is the most important thing.

[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]

I'm not sure if you're talking about Nintendo or Microsoft.

Overall, I'd say that Nintendo is winning, because of DS sales, the number of Wii sold, etc.

If you're talking about this generation, I'd say that Microsoft is winning, because they have sold more games and brought in more total gross.

gomanthethird

Have they? I thought they lost money with the RROD or are you talking about M$ as the software company.

It's not meaningless when you consider that more games equal more console sales and more money brought in over XBL.

Profit is not as big as you think, at least not right now. Microsoft is betting on future profits.

As many consoles as the Wii has sold, they are not selling a lot of games, which means that growth is limited.

Growth is the most important thing, and that is where Microsoft is winning right now.

I'm not sure if you're talking about Nintendo or Microsoft.

Overall, I'd say that Nintendo is winning, because of DS sales, the number of Wii sold, etc.

If you're talking about this generation, I'd say that Microsoft is winning, because they have sold more games and brought in more total gross.