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#1 swehunt
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This is what i came up with that i can afford most likely. Please rate /review as i really am not the greatest at building my own computer. Processor- 1 x Quad Core AMD Phenom II X4 975 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU- Processor Cooling- 1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD]-ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) Memory- 1 x 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module- Video Card- 1 x AMD Radeon HD 6790 - 1GB-Single Card Motherboard- 1 x [CrossFire] ASUS M5A97 -- AMD 970 w/ 2x PCI-E 2.0 x16- Motherboard USB / SATA Interface 1 x Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface- Power Supply- 1 x 750 Watt -- Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2- Primary Hard Drive- 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive Please any feedback would be great. I plan on using this desktop for ONLY GAMING SWTOR and possibly World of Warcraft. I have a pretty good laptop to do work on.Mshxi420

Drop the CPU to a 955BE and up the GPU to a HD6850 if your interested in playing games, because it'll give you better framerate in games.

The 955BE is the exsact same CPU as the one you've choosen but with a lower multiplier, since theyre both BE's you just raise the multiplier to 975's level.

Why would you opt. for a TX750, a vx550 is much more than your be able to load the PSU, buy a cheaper PSU (not in therms of quality but in therms of price) vx550 would even manage CF HD6850 if you want to, TX750 is just overkill.

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[QUOTE="Decadeflyer"]I'll reuse my mouse and keyboard, however in regard to speakers, I have none. I normally don't use speakers mind you, as I constantly have headphones plugged into my monitor. That being said, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say my monitor isn't the greatest. It certainly isn't horrible, but if I want to get a good graphics card I don't think it'll do it justice. The monitor I currently have is an HP vs 19 that game with the computer I'm currently using when I purchased it years ago. I'll let you be the judge, but I still have a feeling I'll be getting a new one. If you do have good speakers in mind btw, by all means mention them. I minus well make a little list of things I may purchase later on after I already have my computer built and such

Fostex monitors I have a keen eye for, not that expencive and great sounding. I use E-mu 1010/0404/1212 soundcards, I don know why but they were very good when I brought them nowdays they're a bit old, Julia is a simpler card if you don't need the live inputs. For a studio soundcard I would actually go about and find a used one, But what are your purpose really, do you need a patch and 12 line in? Headphones to final a mix is crap, any musican/soundtechnican will tell you the very same thing, headphones skew your stereo listning, and 99.8% of the headphones provide a insane flat sound curve in the lower bass region that no real speakers can provide. You NEED monitors or your final mix will sound horrible with buumly bass as a result. In Ableton/cubase wheva.. you'll want a large monitor, the larger the more info you can have on the screen, having a 19" with low pixelcount won't do, I use a dualmonitor settup so I can have one screen with effects/mixers and the second for the song. You'll want a 4core CPU, enough to prosses all the VST's or make mp3's in a short time. You'll want atleast 4GB ram, most musicproduction programs don't use it all but you'll be glad if you dont have less than 4GB. Graphic card, onboard would do. case and casefans are VERY important, this is where you would lay some thought in it, you'll have to buy amf sounddampening to fill the inside of the case. You'll need a good HSF for the CPU, preferably a really silent one, perhaps even a passive one.
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#3 swehunt
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[QUOTE="mikval"]I see, but I need to get another thing straight, Starcraft II's System Requirements require that I have at least a Dual Core Processor with 2.4GHz, but I have a Quad Core Processor with 1.4GHz, does this mean that I can't play Starcraft II?ionusX

not so in fact your over the boxes requirements XD

the best dual core's barely stack up to the slowest quad core's XD

The best dualcores (sandyB dual's) beat the early ph1 x4 by miles (1.2Ghz), they're perhaps even 3-4 times better :P .
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So I currently have 2 gtx 460's in my system, but I had a thought, can I get a different more low end card and make it a physx dedicated card, so then my 2nd 460 doesn't have to worry about it? Oh and by the way, my 460's are 2 way sli only, so can it all still be done without an sli bridge?

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Why wouldn't you run physX of the card you already have? Don't do it, gtx460 SLI are more than capable to run PhysX along with the few games that support it.
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Anandtech said this in the conclution of their review.

"So where does that leave the 5670? The 5670 does surprisingly well against the 9800 GT. It wins in some cases, trails very slightly in a few more, and then outright loses only in games where the 5670 is already playable up to 1920x1200. From a performance standpoint I think the 9800 GT is ahead, but it's not enough to matter; meanwhile the "green" 9800 GT shortens the gap even more, and it still is over 10W hotter than the 5670. The 5670 is a good enough replacement for the 9800 GT in that respect, plus it has support for DX11, Eyefinity, and 3D Blu-Ray when that launches later this year."

:shock:

I have to agree with them, they perform very simular.

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[QUOTE="Drumlegend"]Ok so my rig is nothing special Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz Corsair Dominator 12.0 GB Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. H55M-UD2H (Socket 1156) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768mb OC 488GB Seagate ST3500418AS ATA Device (SATA) 977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device (SATA) Now it seems to be having issues playing Modern Warfare which I find quite embarrassing. I am assuming its because my card is very low budget but would appreciate any thoughts to the matter.

Your card plays any game fine and is a very capable card. If anything is "low budget" it's your CPU. Even if your only on a dualcore it shouldn't hold you from running the game max'ed out with higher framerate than your monitor can view. set FPS to the monitors highest Hz. (usally 60 if your on a LCD/TFT/TN monitor)
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ok ok ok, the fact is these benchmarks have a purpose and they provide excellent information in what a card is capable of , there might be some differences but overall the reviewers come to the same conclusion. The more times passes , the more the drivers are updated and the information becomes more accurate.

Techpowerup and tomshardware are my two main sites for hardware information, when i have i see a difference in results in the two sites i go to others

Well on game debate (www.game-debate.com) you can compare graphics cards. the hd 5670 is said to be 27 procent higher than the 9800 gt

That's confusing now i got three different answers, i need to keep on looking. let's go to guru 3d

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Actually quite the opposite, the older the chart gets the more incorrect it gets.

The giant ranking list of techpowerup is great because it gives you a good hint on the performance but it's not entirely accurate since the older card were run with really old drivers but the new ones have new drivers.

Opposite to what Gambler try to give the impression of, this giant list is NOT coneccted to the reviews in any other way than that its just a ranking list, witch they put in results from their reviews over a long time.

Whenever I see that chart as a veto on X pwns X card I giggle a little, the older cards is not tested at the same instance on the same drivers, yes they may have been tested with the same hardware but thats the case with most reviewers as they usally use the same bench for a long time streaching over sevral years.

Well thats not speaking for the HD5670 is it?, because the 8800gt is older, but I have been comparing different reviews from anandtech and HW3d and tomsHw, they do indeed perform near eachother, the 8800gt seems to have better results in the shader heavy games but the opposite in different cases where the HD5670 manage to take the lead.

These giant charts are great as a owerview and general performance, but things DO change with new drivers, I remember a reviewer did a test to see how much the drivers do actually increase the performance over time well in some cases it's as much as 1/3 and in other games it remain the same, some even show a negative result where they take away some performance to fix obvious glitches in the game, point is that reviews made a long time ago is not at all relevant when we talk about difference in the single %, in a wider span then yes they provide a ranking system but the cards witch were within a few % from eachother can shift place.

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#8 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"]

So I put 4gb of ram into my pc yet my pc, although saying there is 4gb in the computer, says that only 2.66gb is useabale. Why is this? I'm on Windows 7 if that helps.

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32bit I suppose? You need 64bit to be able to see all of the 4GB, comon knowlage!

Ah okay. So what is the max ram I can get for using the 32bit verison of windows 7?

4GB is the amount, but it's shared with the graphic card and other things with a memory.
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[QUOTE="swehunt"]It's these huge techpowerup charts. :lol: These charts are both old and new, each card runs a different driver, no real comparison can be made outta it, only a estemate.Gambler_3

No they use updated drivers for all the cards, it says that right at the start of every review. They dont have "universal" charts like tomshardware, they post charts after every review and alot of the cards dont feature in the chart anymore because they dont test it anymore. They dont use performance numbers from previous drivers.

If you would have bothered looking at a review this is what it says at the test setup page,

  • All video card results were obtained on this exact system with the exact same configuration.
  • All games were set to their highest quality setting

Seems to me nobody knows how techpowerup charts work.

If you manage to snag a chart from techpowerup and post it here, manage to even qoute them driectly from their site I do not think it's to much to actually understand what the quote actually says!

It says NOTHING about what drivers were used, and honestly do you in your wildest imagination think they have the time to run benchmarks on 60 cards sevral times a month? It takes huge amount of time and isn't even remotly possible to do!

I know for a fact that this is not the case, Techpowerup test the cards one time, then they just add up with new results as they come, thats why they manage to make charts with is all incorrect and still have it in the chart.

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So I put 4gb of ram into my pc yet my pc, although saying there is 4gb in the computer, says that only 2.66gb is useabale. Why is this? I'm on Windows 7 if that helps.

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32bit I suppose? You need 64bit to be able to see all of the 4GB, comon knowlage!