And I pointed out that Crysis 3 being Crysis, it probably is GPU limited, and so isn't a good measure for which CPU would be better for gaming.

As for SC2, I moved from a Phenom 960 which I think is quad core 2.4 ghz? to a Core i5 Ivy, and SC2 performed much better. SC2 was one of the few games where you really noticed CPU slowdown.

I've been wanting to pick up the odyssey lower east side speakers.

mainly for the industrial design. 

they're probably overpriced, but there are woot sales sometimes.

[QUOTE="taiwwa"]

Hmm, well, the fx6300 looks like the sweet spot right now, about the same price as an i3. Looks to have about teh same performance in games, and will do better in media encoding.

I mean, I've liked AMD for a while. One of the first computers I built was like an athlon xp system.

I probably would go with like a fx6300 if I were building today. 

Also the OP should look at some of the cooling systems. They're fun. Like Corsair sells these cool water-cooling systems which place the exhaust radiator right on the side of the case and not just blowing from inside the case. pretty elegant. 

jennycakes215

Aww, let me guess, the Evo 212?

You don't really need an awesome cooling system and you wouldn't be able to really notice an overclock in day-to-day use anyways. 

But it's fun.

I really like the Corsair H60. There are a few other competitors who have similar designs you might be able to find cheaper. 

How small is this case? I wanted to get like an ITX case with an AMD trinity chip and watercooling, but isntead just got micro-ATX. 

Hmm, well, the fx6300 looks like the sweet spot right now, about the same price as an i3. Looks to have about teh same performance in games, and will do better in media encoding.

I mean, I've liked AMD for a while. One of the first computers I built was like an athlon xp system.

I probably would go with like a fx6300 if I were building today. 

Also the OP should look at some of the cooling systems. They're fun. Like Corsair sells these cool water-cooling systems which place the exhaust radiator right on the side of the case and not just blowing from inside the case. pretty elegant. 

Uh, so there's some conspiracy going on between all the major gaming sites? Unlikely. 

It's just one dude's results, while literally every single site out there has intel doing better on actual games.

Here's something more comprehensive. i3 vs 8350

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=677

The only argument for the 8350 is that it is good enough in games but is noticably better in video encoding if you use handbrake a lot.

Oh, and power matters. Like, PSU's are surprisingly expensive. Some are like $70. 

I got away with a 450 watt PSU in large part because the intel processor is so power efficient. The TDP was like 77 I think. The AMD CPU would have forced me to get a bigger and more expensive PSU.

Crysis is equal because it is not CPU limited. It is GPU limited. That's what Crysis is all about, pushing your video card.

CPU limited is an upper cap on FPS. 

Other games show a healthy like 50% advantage for the intel part while at the same time consumer 50% less power. 

[QUOTE="taiwwa"]

Well, yes, the CPU isn't that important for gaming. A Core i3 is more than enough for pretty much all the modern games. It's smarter to invest money is a good GPU instead.

But you wanted an answer on which CPU was better for gaming. This is how you do it. Intel wins on just about every measure. 

jennycakes215

Anyway, this is a question for everyone. I have been playing around with the graphics settings on Crysis 3 and there is something I don't understand. I had AA all the way up since I've been playing. I lowered it to it's lowest setting and did not notice a difference at all. I restarted the game and still no difference. I noticed I ran even better with it on low. I cannot see a difference at all unless its turned off completely. Why would I have it all the way up?

Well, uh, okay. This isn't that hard to do. Just look at which bar is higher.

http://www.anandtech.com/print/6396

and which one is lower

As you can see, the previous generation Sandy Bridge intel i5 is about 50% faster in starcraft 2, while using about half of the power under load. It is also $10 cheaper than the AMD part on newegg.com 

The only area where the AMD part is superior to the intel part is like in running stuff like 7zip decompression programs. 

I mean, really.

Well, yes, the CPU isn't that important for gaming. A Core i3 is more than enough for pretty much all the modern games. It's smarter to invest money is a good GPU instead.

But you wanted an answer on which CPU was better for gaming. This is how you do it. Intel wins on just about every measure. 

[QUOTE="taiwwa"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Crysis 3 is an AMD Gaming Evolved title.Alx1231

Do you understand how game benchmarks work? CPU limits the upper range of frame rates. GPU limits lower range.

AMD:

Far Cry 3 - CPU @ 4.6GHz

• 1080p - Max - 36.44
• 1080p - No Filters - 55.24
• 1080p - Crossfire - Max - 53.12
• 1080p - Crossfire - No Filters - 56.40

Intel:

Far Cry 3 - CPU @ 4.5GHz

• 1080p - Max - 36.20
• 1080p - No Filters - 59.72
• 1080p - Crossfire - Max - 76.68
• 1080p - Crossfire - No Filters - 81.56

Look at the last line. Intel CPU gets 81.56 FPS. AMD CPU gets 56.40. 

For gaming, the intel CPU is 80% faster than the AMD cpu

They were so alike that it was more likely they were GPU-limited.

[QUOTE="Alx1231"][QUOTE="buccomatic"]

http://teksyndicate.com/videos/crysis-3-benchmarks-amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-i7-3770k-both-overclocked

 

lol

ronvalencia

Do you understand how game benchmarks work? CPU limits the upper range of frame rates. GPU limits lower range.

AMD:

Far Cry 3 - CPU @ 4.6GHz

• 1080p - Max - 36.44
• 1080p - No Filters - 55.24
• 1080p - Crossfire - Max - 53.12
• 1080p - Crossfire - No Filters - 56.40

Intel:

Far Cry 3 - CPU @ 4.5GHz

• 1080p - Max - 36.20
• 1080p - No Filters - 59.72
• 1080p - Crossfire - Max - 76.68
• 1080p - Crossfire - No Filters - 81.56

Look at the last line. Intel CPU gets 81.56 FPS. AMD CPU gets 56.40. 

For gaming, the intel CPU is 80% faster than the AMD cpu