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#1 tehrhythm
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[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"]Uncharted has always been known for its great gameplay, cinematics, top flight action, and engaging character performances... BUT here is why Uncharted 2 also has some of the best story telling techniques ive ever seen in video games! When you first arrived at the village after being rescused from near death, Remember how you had woken up, and were now walking along Tenzon, while seeing the villagers just going about their lifes? You were left wondering where you were just as much as Drake was. This beautiful mysterious place. I was intrigued. Every body was just happy, kids were playing, and people laughing ect. It was a great sequence, albiet it was for a little amount of time But that sequence got you to start caring about the village and its villagers, and it occured all during gameplay It was a story telling device specific to gaming being used by Naughty Dog. Here it is: Also look how you have freedom to explore. You could walk around and take the beautiful sights in. You could interact with most of all the villagers you came across too, even the animals lol. That further immersed and drew you in into this world. Tenzon takes you to Shaffer and he tells you to investigate the ice caves with Tenzon to uncover the truth about the chintamonte stone etc The relationship you build up with Tenzon IN GAMEPLAY during the ice cave level was pretty amazing... And then it happens, Upon your return from the ice caves, it happens...what Drake and Elena feared ..... The Village is ransacked and pillaged!!! (By the way, the ice cave level was a gigantic and very atmospheric level with out of this world platforming on giant mechanisms. It was badass. Im sure the begining of the level will be in the vid above. Continue watching the playthrough to see the ice cave level either way) You now see the village destroyed and in ruin. The people you were interacting with before in total distress now. I felt real emotion because of my walk across the village before all of that had happened. It was subtle but powerful. Such great story telling techniques used by Naughty Dog. Then you have these epic shootouts spanning accross the ransacked village. The villagers are fighting along side you trying to protect their village etc. Not going to lie, it was a little heart warming lol You then start battling a tank in the middle of it all too! Truly EPIC. The whole village seige level was FRIGGEN EPIC beyond belief. The way Naughty Dog used story-telling devices to set it up, and give the gameplay so much more meaning was just phenomenal. And the gameplay itself was awesome too. (Level design was so good in the way traversal + gun play was encouraged, and in how you could take different routes to flank enemies or how you could always take the high grounds for that advantage etc. I will post a video to show you this in a little bit. Hang tight:)) But yeah everything was brilliant! Naughty Dog really is operating on another level of creativity, story telling, and video game development. NO other developer can touch Naughty Dog in any area of game design. All they can do is attempt to copy Naughty Dog, like they attempted to copy Uncharted, but of course to no avil ... Now here is the begining of the awesome seige level: (Feel free to keep watching all the parts) Really look at how stunning the level design is. Once the player makes it to open space, look at how you can either climb up the side to the left, flank the gunner, and take the high ground on the enemies below... OR how you can go to the right and tackle the enemies from inside the hut while having cover etc The player here decides to go right, but you can find other videos with the player going to the left and taking the high grounds for an advantage. Like ive been saying, MANY levels in Uncharted 2 give you the option in how you want to tackle enemies, And the stunning level design really encourages the use of traversal during gun play - to take out enemies from high ground etc Uncharted has the BEST pure gameplay (and enemy encounters) of any 3rd person shooter out there - due to the options you have and the traversal aspects which interweave flawlessly into gunplay etc etc etc A game like Gears of War has such barebones and restrictrive gameplay in comparison to Uncharted's gameplay. Gameplay in Gears really is laughable compared to the superior gameplay in Uncharted. Anyway, back on topic now! It was all such a well built sequence of events in Uncharted 2: To summarize: From the peacful stroll across the village, seeming almost mysterious and mystical, to the ice caves, which envoked the same feelings, and then coming back and seeing the village destroyed. It was like wow. Then the epic shoot outs that ensued there after etc Just amazing all around.... And the best use of story telling i have seen yet in video games too. Very innovative video game story-telling techniques from Naughty Dog displayed. It was all done and fleshed out through gameplay too, which is even more impressive. Naughty Dog is like a PRIME Manny Pacman, while all the other unorginal developers of this industry are like a bunch of Ricky Hattons to Naughty Dog. Uncharted 2 really was a GROUND breaking game on so many levels; All the way from the smooth, varied, and great gameplay, to the superb story telling, to the cinematics, to the action, to the great acting etc The way it all came togther too etc Uncharted 2 WAS revolutionary and like i have already mentioned, Uncharted 2 revolutionized this gen. The only 3rd person action shooter game that can even match Uncharted 2 is Uncharted 3, and Naughty Dog created Uncharted 3 too lolClock-w0rk

Holy f*cking shit

Wow, how could a mod delete that brilliant post? Such b.s! Screw the mod who deleted that post. It was an informative post. That post was not breaking any rules. That seriously gets me pissed. A post being long doesnt mean it should be deleted. Ive noticed that there is a mod or mods going around deleting pro-playstation posts. Thats unacceptable...and I WILL BE MAKING a complaint about that mod ot mods to the main admin. I encourgae you all to make the same complaint So to who ever is deleting posts like that, Keep doing what you are doing and acting like a biased xbox fanboy mod. Im going to the admin about you and I WILL get you removed of your mod status. I promise you that
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#2 tehrhythm
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I can't help that I live and breath platformers and LBP is a terrible one.AticEdge
Nothing more then YOUR OPINION. Get that through your unbelievably thick skull please. Many people have found the gameplay in LBP great. What makes your opinion more vaild then theirs? Because you post on system wars? I bet i've played MORE platformers then you, and I SAY LBP has great gameplay, so does that now make my opinion more vaild then yours by your OWN LOGIC? What is funny too is that after all the garbage you have been spewing about LBP, I bet you have never even played LBP and or most PS exclusives. That's very typical of a playstation hater. To complain about or blindly attempt to discredit Playstation games they have NEVER even played. Pathetic
this case, since its backed up and several users are echoing my sentiment, I think it is sir.AticEdge
Did you not catch this response to one of your posts?
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]LBP has horrid gameplay. If you have a profound love for platformers, it takes a special kind of tolerance to enjoy LBP when sooooo many better alternatives exist. Unless of course you just wanna dick around with a level editor and call that gameplay.SexyJazzCat
I disagree. In fact it's one of the most enjoyable platformers this gen.

That person DISAGREED with you.In fact, I havent seen one person agree with you yet. Blabadon agrees with you but he is a 360 fanboy troll, so he doesnt count. That man clearly has mental issues too. All the more reason he doesnt count for anything here. More people agree with opinions similar to mine Im NOT going to respond to the rest of your post, because it was nothing more then you continuing to spout off your self obsorved opinions as a Nintendo fanatic as facts and the be all - end all to all discussions. I hate to say this, but you are delusional and only see what you want to see. For the last time i will tell you this. YOUR opinion isnt the be all-end all. Thank you. Have a good day
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#3 tehrhythm
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[QUOTE="tehrhythm"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

autism? ....autism

 

 

ActicEdge

Haha am I the only one who actually read that whole post and enjoyed it? I understood his post. I get what he is saying and I agree fully.

Probably cause you're the same person.

Yep, the millions of people who love Uncharted are all the same perosn too!
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[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"]Uncharted has always been known for its great gameplay, cinematics, top flight action, and engaging character performances... BUT here is why Uncharted 2 also has some of the best story telling techniques ive ever seen in video games! When you first arrived at the village after being rescused from near death, Remember how you had woken up, and were now walking along Tenzon, while seeing the villagers just going about their lifes? You were left wondering where you were just as much as Drake was. This beautiful mysterious place. I was intrigued. Every body was just happy, kids were playing, and people laughing ect. It was a great sequence, albiet it was for a little amount of time But that sequence got you to start caring about the village and its villagers, and it occured all during gameplay It was a story telling device specific to gaming being used by Naughty Dog. Here it is: Also look how you have freedom to explore. You could walk around and take the beautiful sights in. You could interact with most of all the villagers you came across too, even the animals lol. That further immersed and drew you in into this world. Tenzon takes you to Shaffer and he tells you to investigate the ice caves with Tenzon to uncover the truth about the chintamonte stone etc The relationship you build up with Tenzon IN GAMEPLAY during the ice cave level was pretty amazing... And then it happens, Upon your return from the ice caves, it happens...what Drake and Elena feared ..... The Village is ransacked and pillaged!!! (By the way, the ice cave level was a gigantic and very atmospheric level with out of this world platforming on giant mechanisms. It was badass. Im sure the begining of the level will be in the vid above. Continue watching the playthrough to see the ice cave level either way) You now see the village destroyed and in ruin. The people you were interacting with before in total distress now. I felt real emotion because of my walk across the village before all of that had happened. It was subtle but powerful. Such great story telling techniques used by Naughty Dog. Then you have these epic shootouts spanning accross the ransacked village. The villagers are fighting along side you trying to protect their village etc. Not going to lie, it was a little heart warming lol You then start battling a tank in the middle of it all too! Truly EPIC. The whole village seige level was FRIGGEN EPIC beyond belief. The way Naughty Dog used story-telling devices to set it up, and give the gameplay so much more meaning was just phenomenal. And the gameplay itself was awesome too. (Level design was so good in the way traversal + gun play was encouraged, and in how you could take different routes to flank enemies or how you could always take the high grounds for that advantage etc. I will post a video to show you this in a little bit. Hang tight:)) But yeah everything was brilliant! Naughty Dog really is operating on another level of creativity, story telling, and video game development. NO other developer can touch Naughty Dog in any area of game design. All they can do is attempt to copy Naughty Dog, like they attempted to copy Uncharted, but of course to no avil ... Now here is the begining of the awesome seige level: (Feel free to keep watching all the parts) Really look at how stunning the level design is. Once the player makes it to open space, look at how you can either climb up the side to the left, flank the gunner, and take the high ground on the enemies below... OR how you can go to the right and tackle the enemies from inside the hut while having cover etc The player here decides to go right, but you can find other videos with the player going to the left and taking the high grounds for an advantage. Like ive been saying, MANY levels in Uncharted 2 give you the option in how you want to tackle enemies, And the stunning level design really encourages the use of traversal during gun play - to take out enemies from high ground etc Uncharted has the BEST pure gameplay (and enemy encounters) of any 3rd person shooter out there - due to the options you have and the traversal aspects which interweave flawlessly into gunplay etc etc etc A game like Gears of War has such barebones and restrictrive gameplay in comparison to Uncharted's gameplay. Gameplay in Gears really is laughable compared to the superior gameplay in Uncharted. Anyway, back on topic now! It was all such a well built sequence of events in Uncharted 2: To summarize: From the peacful stroll across the village, seeming almost mysterious and mystical, to the ice caves, which envoked the same feelings, and then coming back and seeing the village destroyed. It was like wow. Then the epic shoot outs that ensued there after etc Just amazing all around.... And the best use of story telling i have seen yet in video games too. Very innovative video game story-telling techniques from Naughty Dog displayed. It was all done and fleshed out through gameplay too, which is even more impressive. Naughty Dog is like a PRIME Manny Pacman, while all the other unorginal developers of this industry are like a bunch of Ricky Hattons to Naughty Dog. Uncharted 2 really was a GROUND breaking game on so many levels; All the way from the smooth, varied, and great gameplay, to the superb story telling, to the cinematics, to the action, to the great acting etc The way it all came togther too etc Uncharted 2 WAS revolutionary and like i have already mentioned, Uncharted 2 revolutionized this gen. The only 3rd person action shooter game that can even match Uncharted 2 is Uncharted 3, and Naughty Dog created Uncharted 3 too lolpainguy1

Holy f*cking shit

autism? ....autism

 

 

Haha am I the only one who actually read that whole post and enjoyed it? I thought he was spot on and agree with most of his points lol. I appreciate that at least he backed up his assertions logically and reasonably,unlike 360 fanboy trolls do when they nit pick or even lie about Uncharted to hate on it or discredit it
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Actic, as someone who I pretty much regard as someone who knows their shit about platforrmers, what do you consider the gold standard for 2D platformers?Blabadon
Acting like Actic is some platformer connoisseur. LOL hes not, and you certainly are nothing more then an anonymous 360 fanboy troll on the Internet.
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#6 tehrhythm
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[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

LBP has horrid gameplay. If you have a profound love for platformers, it takes a special kind of tolerance to enjoy LBP when sooooo many better alternatives exist. Unless of course you just wanna dick around with a level editor and call that gameplay.

ActicEdge

 I GREW up playing Mario games, and then Crash Bandicoot! I know and LOVE platformers....I use to LOVE Mario when i was a little kid, and back when it was not being rehased to death, like it currently is now. I loved Crash Bandicoot even more! I LOVED all the Jak & Daxter games etc. I actually loved Super Mario Sunshine. Sadly i missed out on the PS2 Sly games. Little big Planet has great gameplay too. LBP actually reinvigorated my love for platformers! Just because its jumping physics are floaty that doesnt mean it has bad gameplay. Its just different! Its still done well for what its going for, And it gives LBP its own identity - along with all the innovative things its doing too, like the innovative and intuitive level editor, which all give LBP its unique identity etc Dont be so narrow minded! Look, focused linear games done right(Uncharted) and platformers are two of my favorite genres. I know what im talkng about with platformers. Ive played a sh1t ton of them lol. Little big planet 1 and 2 both remain amazing. People STILL consider Mario the gold standard of platformers somehow lol. And Little big planet is better now IMO Much better and more creative level design. I also love all the bubbles and stickers you collect in levels. Some of them are cleverly hidden lol I enjoy collecting all that stuff in LBP(1 or 2) a lot more then i enjoy collecting stars or coins in Mario And collecting goodies in LBP actually rewards you with items you CAN USE to make levels with. How awesome is that? I love the set up! Little Big Planet is such a fun and innovative platformer, bottom line. It takes a special kind of idiot to say the gameplay in LBP is horrid;) How can you hate on sackboy or on the cute and charming nature of Little Big Planet too? You must have no heart sir! p.s I have noticed that all you do is hate on Playstation exclusives. The shitck is old. Just stop it already nintendo fangeek

I don't get why you set your standards so much lower then and played that garbage. I've 100% every mainline mario game and every naughty dog crash bandicoot game as well. LBP can't wax their shoes.

No it doesn't, its terrible floaty, slow paced, poorly designed crap. A good platformer can't have bad platforming mechanics, that's just basic design 101. And the gameplay is bad because its poorly executed, not because its different, Sonic is different from mario which is different from meat boy which is different from kirby which is different from spyro. None of this have bad gameplay, hide behind "different: if you want but being different is not the same as being good.

In terms of 3D platformers, nothing has been designed that outclasses SMG1&2. Its the gold standard because the design is so well thought out and every single part of a level is crafted with a purpose. LBP is in no way shape or form better designed than SMG. Even the NSMB series which imo isn't the gold standard for 2D platformers (its still top tier though) is much better in terms of consistancy and design philosophy balancing difficulty with player skills and progression. 

In the name of quality, I will gladly be that idiot. Also, I don't hate all playstation exclusives, they are just overated imo because I am someone who is about fundamentals. I don't really give a shit about shine and graphics or presentation. I'm about getting the gameplay mechanics right, designing your game thoughtfully and making sure you craft a solid and highly playable experience. It may not be a popular opinion but so be it. I don't think Sony exclusives are all that. As far as being a nintendo fangeek, well, they design there games far more in line with what appeals to me about gaming. Can't help it. I'll put up with shit graphics, shit presentation and shit story if the gameplay is unbelievable but not the other way around. 

Wow, you really need to come off your high horse you snobby elitist! Newsflash: Your OPINION means nothing more then his. In fact, I would say your opinions here mean much less because you are a known deluded plaustation hater. You NEED to understand that people love little-big-planet and ENJOY the gameplay. Same goes for Uncharted! Who are you to tell them they are wrong? What even defines or sets good gameplay? Its all subjective bull*hit. You sure as hell arent the mediator of what makes good gameplay. Your opinions arent the be all and end all, so stop acting like it is. You have the same snobby attitude of the older fans who whorship Nintendo due to nostalgia while HATING on everything that is modern. You Nintendo fanatics are basically wanna-be "hipsters" Little-big-planet has very good gameplay. The level design is very good as well. I personally enjoyed both little-big-planet games a lot more then the super galaxy mario games. Now I could be a douche like you; say you are wrong about SMG, tell you why SMG is worse then LBP, why SMG is nothing more then a rehash of the same mario gameplay formual thats been around for 20+ years now....BUT I wont be a douche like you. I understand that you like it, JUST LIKE YOU should understand that MANY like the gameplay in LBP Playstation exclusives are some of the best games of this generation. I find them to be very UNDER rated considering posts like yours. Sony's developers have brought upon many of the innovations of this industry with playstation exclusives. Naughty Dog with Uncharted created the gameplay formula that has been getting copied to no end through out this gen. Heavy Rain was a unique experience that allowed games like the Walking Dead to exist. Little-big-planet and Infamous 2 brought innovative create, build, and share features etc. Without Playstation exclusives, gaming WOULD still be stuck in the 90s Come back to us when Nintendo can actually create a modern game with modern gameplay mechanics or when a 360 exclusive revolutionize gaming the way Uncharted did etc
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#7 tehrhythm
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[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

Is anyone actually reading epicgameplayer's posts?

I'm not.

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I read them for a laugh when I'm really bored... sometimes, his psychotic ramblings can have some strange appeal... :P

Ive read all of his posts in this thread. He's passionate but he's definitely not psychotic. Uncharted series has the fantastic gameplay to match. He actually backs up his posts with examples, video evidence and common sense too. Its nice to see some actual reasonable posts here instead the usual 360 fanboys going, "Unchared is terrible" If anyone is psychotic, its 360 fanboys like you, robbotopple, Blabadon, miketheman83 etc.
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Playstation 3: -Uncharted -Infamous -Little Big Planet -Killzone - Resistance - MotorStorm -Gran Turismo -Guacameele -StarHawk Loved the gameplay in all the above games!
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#9 tehrhythm
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Viva Pinata >>>>> every other 1st party game that has been, or will ever be made.Jack-Burton
LOL NO. Viva Pinata is average at best. Just like most 360 exclusives are, Viva is TERRIBLY OVER rated. Gears and Halo are way more over rated though. Viva is actually decent. Its just over rated. As for this thread,I agree with others that Gears and Halo are garbage. Gears and Halo both have TERRIBLE gun play, even worse level design and enemy encounters. Horrible stories. The question is what doesnt Halo and Gears do wrong! Gears and Halo are linear, scirpted, corridor shooters at its worst. Such boring and repetitive games