You can't read the signs. Because in Oblivion 360... you can read signs.

You know what I'm refering to.

1. It is damage control to even bring up 360 hardware failures. What does this have to do with games or gaming in general if not to simply discredit a system you don't own?

2. "a bit too colorful" is a pretty fanboy-ish argument if you ask me. What does that even mean? If that's the art-style the devs were after, they accomplished their goal. End of story.

3. Why would you argue FOR owning a ps3 based on multiplats? They are good games, but also games that could be enjoyed for less money, earlier,and in their true, un-ported form.

whoisryanmack

1. "SYSTEM" wars. It applies.

2. It was an example. Halo looks fine.

3. Controls. Tendency. Reliability. Free Online.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="0rin"]I didn't read that, yet.. but I wanted to get in before the fanboys do..

honestly, what do lems have to be afraid of right now?

So far, two of the most hyped games for the PS3 since launch are seeming to be mediocre at best. I'm a pretty strict Cow, but I'm not blind. I can see that Sony's "omg" lineup isn't doing as well as everyone had hoped.

This doesn't really concern me much, since I like my PS3, and the games coming out for it. But I hardly think its something the Lemmings would be jealous/afraid of. and who's to say what 08 will bring for the 360.
CMPunk13

I have no idea what they're afraid of, I'm asking them really. They certainly are showing it through indirect damage control though.

Maybe the wii scared them?

wth are you rambling about, wtf is indirect damage control? you can't just make up stupid words and terms and expect people to take you seriously -- unless what you're saying makes sense, but it doesn't :)

It's when you bash a console to cover the flaws of your own console.

Hmmm, BioShock comes to mind at a time like this. Have any AAA titles to share with us from your beloved future Dreamcast?

.....

Didn't think so.

And that really... had nothing to do with what I said except giving an example and justifying me. Thanks. :3

anyone who feels lemmings are pushing ppl down was not here when PS2 reigned supreme thats all cows did...turnabout is fair play and now PS fans are mad about it o wellMedjai

[QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="Heith"]It could also be that some of those lemmings actually bought the PS3 hoping for a great system, only to have their hopes and dreams of sony goodness dashed by the horrible marketing and development that sony has implemented with this she man system they try to pass off on us that ends up being an inferior system (doubly bad when it's worse than its 100 odd dollar cheaper counterpart both in specification and game development)Heith

Listen, when your own in house team cant even make a sure fire hit out of the system, what makes you think anyone else can. (I'm refering to Heavenly sword which, according to everyone so far except for "play" magazine, is a flop. Dont try to drop this patience thing on me, this thing is the follow up to the biggest console in history...

Yeah the guys from Kung Foo Chaos... real dream team there.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

[QUOTE="0rin"]I didn't read that, yet.. but I wanted to get in before the fanboys do..

honestly, what do lems have to be afraid of right now?

So far, two of the most hyped games for the PS3 since launch are seeming to be mediocre at best. I'm a pretty strict Cow, but I'm not blind. I can see that Sony's "omg" lineup isn't doing as well as everyone had hoped.

This doesn't really concern me much, since I like my PS3, and the games coming out for it. But I hardly think its something the Lemmings would be jealous/afraid of. and who's to say what 08 will bring for the 360.
3picuri3

I have no idea what they're afraid of, I'm asking them really. They certainly are showing it through indirect damage control though.

Maybe the wii scared them?

wth are you rambling about, wtf is indirect damage control? you can't just make up stupid words and terms and expect people to take you seriously -- unless what you're saying makes sense, but it doesn't :)

It's when you bash a console to cover the flaws of your own console.

I didn't read that, yet.. but I wanted to get in before the fanboys do..

honestly, what do lems have to be afraid of right now?

So far, two of the most hyped games for the PS3 since launch are seeming to be mediocre at best. I'm a pretty strict Cow, but I'm not blind. I can see that Sony's "omg" lineup isn't doing as well as everyone had hoped.

This doesn't really concern me much, since I like my PS3, and the games coming out for it. But I hardly think its something the Lemmings would be jealous/afraid of. and who's to say what 08 will bring for the 360.
0rin

I have no idea what they're afraid of, I'm asking them really. They certainly are showing it through indirect damage control though.

Maybe the wii scared them?

I'll sum it up.

Sony: Strategy for the future.

Xbox 360: HALO!

Wii: Sells too much.

I disagree, the Wii hit a huge market, and that will probably be the biggest seller.

360 vs PS3... well..

While I do warrant that people with the wii have some basis to bash the ps3, we've seen a lot of lemmings go full throttle in order to try to justify their purchase.

But why?

That's a good question. It may be considered fun to feel on top of things, constantly pushing someone down, but its a lot worse than the Sega/SNES days. These 360 fans are ruthless to a hair here or a glitch here. Or a frame rate here. It's getting out of hand.

Well its a big form of indirect damage control.

Indirect damage control involves pushing down the other console in order to make the console look better from one aspect.

Example 1)

PS3 and Wiis has very little hardware issues. However, a lemming will feel threatened and blatantly attack the PS3 side without warrant. (Wii bashing threads are pretty balanced.) They'll name off some "flop" or that it costs too much or doesn't have "any games." While this form is rediculously idiotic to the point that even post is a flame to the ps3.

This is a form of indirect damage control.

And since moderators don't take this into account, people can say anything they want about the ps3, even going as far as lewd and innappropriate behavior.

Example 2)

You bring up a point that Halo looks a bit too colorful (opinion). Then you're faced with an "anti-sony/cow/ps3" flame. Whereas there have been cases when this was a wii owner.

Example 3)

The posts below this one.

In defense of the PS3:

We have enough games, even if many of them are multiplatform, remakes. They're all very good games, even some are still being played. And yet you pass up the opportunity to open your minds to the possibility that something like Resistance might actually be fun online.

I respect a game like Bioshock (although its not my interest persay), but I do think you have to give props to a few games (like revamped Ninja Gaiden, Resistance and Motorstorm). These games play well (as an example) and they certainly have their aqcuired tastes in games.

I'm sorry. It's over. The PS3 is not a failure. It has a nice solid increment of consoles and game systems.

And yes, this is damage contol.

I'm out.

These games keep looking better on 360 because the 360 is able to put out more.. all the ps3 fans keep denying this despite game after game that comes out the same time looking better on 360.. in theory yes, the cell should be able to do amazing stuff, but for all practical purposes, the ps3 is limited by its video card, and nothing any ps3 fan says can change this..Heith

Ok, that's going too far. It just said the two look identical. It'll try to "rim it out" to the xbox fans that its a hair more polished to make you feel better. But honestly, what really hinders the 360 is a lack of a cpu which in turn causes frame rate dips on certain graphic-intensive games. Now I know you all want to warrant you purchase, but come on, honestly. The Ps3 is not limited by its video card, and if anything, we've been shown that the Ps3 has an edge.

Just because you feel something is right, doesn't make it so. There's a trend of the 360 having more shiny outlook in things, but all in all multiplatforms usually look identical. A little fps here and a little hair here, makes your fanboy radar go off, when its merely a multiplatform and shouldn't be the basis to show how grahically powerful the two are.

Games like Oblivion are a lot better looking and smoother, its really up to the developer to utilize it. And time isn't a factor here, considered we've had multiplats look WORSE over time.

So before you even attempt at bashing the PS3, look more towards its collection of exclusives and multiplatforms as a whole, instead of nitpicking each one, and the same for the other consoles.

DMC4 is an awesome game worthy to be played on any system really, so before you turn this into another flaming ps3 thread, try to be considerate to your fellow fanboys. A lot of them have 360s and Wiis as well.