[QUOTE="thenewau25"]

[QUOTE="unrealplaya55"]The thing I hate about FC2 is that its linear. When you are on a road yhere is no other way to destroy a checkpoint unless you go guns blazing.doyousmellthat

1 you kidding me right? you cant attack a base from 360 degree

2 thats the point weapon based combat in real life the weapon is your best friend, if it jams you dont treat it well?

Half the map is funnelled through linear paths and you can only attack a base from one place, are you even playing the same game?

every game but why hype it dont we?

[QUOTE="doyousmellthat"]

How does FC2 give you more options? Name one thing yuo can do? Crysis you can use the environment, pick up enemies, Stealth actually works, you can beat enemies to death with objects in the worls, pick up objects and hurl it at them, FC2 sucks, and is nothing but repetition. The Ai in Crysis owns FC2's dummies. The spawning ruins any fun in travelling around. What is the point os having an open game with nothing fun to do? FGC2 is no more open, half the map funnels you in linear paths you HAve to go down, where enemies respawn in 30 seconds so you have to clear out the same camp 50 times.

You could shoot tires on vehicles in Crysis and they would flip on the enemies, cannot in FC2. You cannot fricken lean, how stupid is that, nor go prone. You could kill enemies by making tress fall on them in Crysis, you could use stealth and use sleep darts, and never kill a soul, try doing that in FC2. FC2 is a game that was obviously designed for ADD console gamers. You could use strength to smash in walls on buildings and make them fall on unsuspecting enemies. Crysisowns FC2, sorry. What is there to explore iN Fc2? Having a big world does not make a game better, FC2 is proof of that, the details are what matters, and FC2's world is stale, repetitive and boring.

Also, learn english.

N3xus9

Hear Hear

Crysis is a much better game on so many levels than Farcry2, both technically and gameplay wise.

thenewau25 uses Crysis hatred as a springboard for attention! I wish Gamespot had an ignore function so we wouldn't have to read his woeful ill-thought out opinions ... or having to try to decipher his atrocious English language skills.

i like games with guns and worldmap not powers and levels like crysis, logical?

[QUOTE="thenewau25"][QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

i've been playing this game for days, and nope, this game is NOT in desperate need of improvement. as a matter of fact, Far Cry 2 is amazingly polished for its enormous scale -- i would go as far as saying that many games of smaller scale didn't do quite as many things right as Far Cry 2 does.

to be honest, i find the Far Cry 2 bashing on this board quite distasteful. i'll be the first to admit that this game is far from perfect, and could use some improvements. but looking at these threads full of up-tight posters ready to slander Far Cry 2 at every opportunity given makes me wonder -- perhaps there's a reason why pc gaming is dwindling. becoz, more than ever before, this platform seems to become a place where effort is not appreciated and bias disguises itself as taste.

doyousmellthat

ohh yeah this game doesnt need improvement , if thats so then every game does!

This game needs a tonne, as right now it is the biggest let down of 2008.

NOPE that goes for fable 2 or might fallout 3 or for crysis and crysis warhead for some users, the proplem is that hype got you too much, its not a let down its the same let down as stalker and crysis to those who expect what they show them in videos and hype not the actual game, that apllies to every game apart from gears of war thanks to mndless x360 gamers

[QUOTE="thenewau25"][QUOTE="doyousmellthat"][QUOTE="thenewau25"][QUOTE="doyousmellthat"][QUOTE="thenewau25"][QUOTE="doyousmellthat"]

Biggest lie in gaming today? FC2 has 50 Km of open terrain? LOL, what a crock, everything is funneled through linear paths, and blocked by hills. Game was average at best, way to repetitive.

As for games getting review scores it dosn't deserve, game reviews have been like this the last few years. Mainstream sites cannot be taken seriously.

I remember arguing with a couple douches on here saying that FC2 was not gonna be as open as they say and not near as good, well, seems many people still are Naive and believe every bit of marketing hype.

doyousmellthat

guess what every game claims that but its a lie, eg cryisis was also blocked by hills and had linear paths!

Crysis never once said it has 50 KM2 of totally open world where you can go anywhere, and Crysis gameplay was much better then FC2 to boot.

AGAIN i dint say it said 50km it said that you go into a base by mutliple ways and it primised wide jungles thats a lie its graphics too check the first beta screens, yup not that good and the gunplay in crysis is garbage its all abot using powers and not weapon base combat like far cry 2 and it has much bigger areas and driving also the ai in crysi cant drive so plz its the same crap dissapointing all the way!

Reading your gibberish is like trying to read a 4 year old trying to learn to write, learn some grammar and English please.

Having a bigger area does not make a game better, especially when that area is repetitive, boring and has nothintg interesting. Is that how you judge game? By playing area? Having a large area does not matter much when the gameplay is not very good. AI iN Crysis can't drive? Did you play the game? They drive and are much smarter then the dumb Ai in FC2 that drive right up to yuor vehicle and don't move when your shooting them in the face.

You can handle each situation in Crysis multiple ways, and yopu have many more options then in FC2.

YES as games proved big areas are good eg assain creed, why you think its open ended? becasue it sales, also in far cry 2 you got weapon based combat no suit abilities, continuing on, in far cry 2 you can get in a base by any side you want unlikely in crysis the landscape is made so that you can go in from behind,and you got options in far cry 2 such as sniping bombing luring the enemy or bombing their vehicles, you just dont use unrealistic powers and in africa those guns are old and stolen why they d sale weapon mods? less technology the better, as for ai in crysis they cant drive, do you see them drive at all apart from boats? they just appear in fron of you with their trucks by sripts and i spotted holes in those scripts, but in far cry 2 they get inside vehicles and chase you, now script maping 50 km is kinda hard isnt it? ! why the ai to move when you shoot them in the face? they are not superhuman neither ai moves while they are in vehicles mostly the driver doesnt get out but stand inside the car and ignores you by scripted moving like the truck after the bridge in the assault level, awful scripting, again you didnt prove anything same crap in crysis and even worse, far cry gave the abilites crysis didnt like climbing on a boa and fightinh with the ai, not teleporting inside the driver seat or make ai look dumb by jumping on the boat, so its better allright!

Virtually everything in your post is nonsense. for one, there are MANY wasy to get into villiages and bases iNC ryssi, did you play the game? Crysis has better gameplay, AI, action, FC2 is boring and repetitive, and the AI is terrible in FC2, areas being large is not excuse for enemies to druves into your vehicle, and then not move when yuor shooting them in the face, at least in Cryssi they jumped out of the vehicle. You are spamming every FC2 thread posting hard to read posts that make no sense. You can do so much more in Crysis whih i detailed, points you have ignored. FC2 is an average game that canoot hold a candle to Crysis. There is nothing you can do in FC2 that you cannot do and do it better in crysis. Bigger map does not make a game bettr when it is designed the way Fc2 is. many areas you cannot get to unless you go down a set ath and clear out the same enemy check point you have cleard 50 times before, monotonous.

Dodes crysis has worldmap? NO

NEXT

[QUOTE="thenewau25"][QUOTE="Delius"]

I got the game on release day, and to be honest I am enjoying the game. Here's my problem, at the moment it's averaging 88 out of 100 (Metacritic) from professional reviewers. Maybe it's just me, but I just don't see the game being any more then a 70 to 79 at most. Everything about this game is solid but very average, and I don't see anything new or innovative.

What is particularly mind boggling is pc gamer's 94 out of 100... WHAT?! Is that a joke? Could someone please tell me how this so-so romp through Africa warrants a 94 from a major publication?

Delius

ok lets see first it has 50 km of worldmap, have you seen many fps like that? or so nive looking areas? you can drive around and explore and not follow linear paths like crysis( couldnt think of another outdoors fps with vehicles) eg and shoot enemies while you are in a vehicle, unlikely far cry 2 you dont have to go from that road you gowhereveryou want and unlike games like stalker that pretedn they got a worldmap this game HAS a worldmap and its huge allowing you to go everywhere in a pretty wide scale, not eg like stalker or crysis, keep pressiong forward but in 360 degreee of possible paths you dont drive around to shoot enemies, its like gta an open ended game that you drive and explore in africa like you are really there and not shoot enemies that were placed in the specific path you got to follow like its a simple singleplayer fps, this game doesnt have levels but a whole belivable world and there is simply no reason to place enemies here and there, also the weapons are real and jam and eventually break the ai reacts reallisticly everything breaks and you can bunr vegetation which is something NEW AND INNOVATIVE

you are on your own but you can fool enemies by using tactics or get someon to help you, if you get injured you must heal yourslef by pulling bullets out or re position you leg after a fall, there are no unreallistic monsters in the game, this game seems so real even when you open a door or how your character can sleep and try attacking at night now how the hell those things aint new and innovative, 5 years now we havent seen a fps with so big map so many weapons or simmilar setting or burnable vegetation, so what you post is simply A JOKE the game worths a 10 or a 9.5 just like the gtaiv the game is so complete, to put it this way what is more complete stalker? or crysis? that dont even have a decent worldmap? there are not complete also gears of war as i checked in your profile has nothing new and innovative it simply copies killswitch in a bad way, also its far from complete levels weaponry use story there are all uncomplete and i dont see a reason for a higher score than 7 the graphics are old and no psychics also totaly linear moving, stalker is also a game that you progress from the begining to the end now worldmap just levle 1 and move on to level 2 with not a proper story! crysis now is a game that gives half of waht promised first of all unlike far cry 2 the gunplay is unreallistic and unproper second the ai is not reallistic proper and finnaly you supose to be on an island so you should be able to get lost in the jungles and hide and not go from the main road, but guess what there is no island its just levels that you go from point A to point B and not whereever you want, actually there is not 360 deggree approach to a way inside an enemy base you get in by the main entrace or a seconde way in which is mostly behind th base and you cant get there because there are no jungles around the base but mountains to clsoe your possible paths and ho in by the main entrace, unlikely in far cry you can go by sea or by snipping and going down from the mountains, another thing is that in crysis you start from the a specific point eg NW and keep moving forwad but in far cry 2 you can go SE and start playing from there thats a belivable worldmap not levels, you post is completly wrong!

OK first paragraph:

1. True, no fps I can think of, but as you've pointed out, the GTA series did this to death. So we have a first person GTA: Africa. I would also like to point out that one of the major complaints that I (and many others) have about the game is the excessive traveling, realistic perhaps, but a fun killer in the end.

2. Granted the weapon jamming thing is a new thing to my knowledge, I'll give you marks for that, but to be honest I found this more annoying then anything. Again, I play games for fun, not realism.

3. Ok I take exception to anyone telling me this has realistic ai, NO FPS AI has been invented that even comes close to emulating a real person in a combat situation. Ask any soldier that's been in real world combat situations. I still say the ai is AVERAGE for a modern fps.

4. Everything is breakable just isn't true. The house's (more like shacks) can take a rocket, propane explosion, grenade, etc with no ill effects.

Second paragraph:

1. Ok, your going to go on and on about realism to me, then go on about the "healing" in the game. How many bullets do you think the average person can pull out of themselves in the run of a week before they bleed to death, get an infection, or go into shock? Come on now, I'm willing to buy the fun factor argument but if your going to pull the realism card get your facts right.

2. I'll give the game credit for the burning foliage, very cool but the only truly new thing.

3. I'm having a really hard time getting through the second paragraph, but I keep seeing that word "realistic". Lets take a look at a few things that kinda broke the whole realistic immersion for me:

• Getting shot multiple times, pulling the bullets out yourself, continuing to fight, then never getting to hospital. OH and you've got Malaria on top of it.
• Firing from the hip with any kind of accuracy, and aiming a rifle while standing with no drift at all.
• The only people in African war zones are overly aggressive militants.
• Finding randomly placed briefcases with convenient tracking devices.
• Firing an rpg at the support beam of a shack, getting a direct hit and not so much as a shingle fell off.

You are, of course, welcome to your opinion, but nothing you said convinces me that Farcry 2 is worth an 80+ score. I will also reiterate that I'm not saying FC2 is a bad game, Its a solid fps that I'll get many hours of enjoyment out of. I just don't think it's anything special.

Now about the comments that people made about your spelling and grammar (uncalled for in some cases :(). I'm the first to admit that mine are lacking, it's something that I'm still working on. Why do I work on my spelling and grammar? So people don't just dismiss what I'm writing, before they've actually read it. I took the time to read your post, unlike some others, because I did ask for your opinion but if I was reading another post I wouldn't have read it at all. If you want to get your point across to people, please consider doing the same thing I'm doing and work on your spelling and grammar. I look forward to arguing coherently in the future. :)

my turn there is a limit in fun and realism and balancing them is great, as for ai id say decent not everage, why? name a fps with bad ai, average ai great a,i and amazing ai? see not many compatitors and why all games got to have the same crap all over? about healing every game has healing, the designers do because they cant focus on ways to not take many hits like enemies missing yes the game is a bit like just cause rate as that not a fps, and finnaly so many new things how can you say you saw nothing new? simply you show nothing new you like, well i like nothing new in crysis!

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]I would like a mod that lets me be a zebra. the objective would be to run away from people chasing you in a jeep! :Dbangell99

Chasing and running down zebras is fun. :D

booo you gone to africa to kill animals you sick dr evil

lets see have you seen crysis weapon mods fixed ai blood and ragdolls add on or ultra high ? then yes

i agree that the crysis syndrome as g-unit call it is annoying and i prefer weapons to be more powerfull thats something that i modded in crysis and far cry 2 but i can insure you that at least far cry 2 is more balanced in combat unlike crysis that one shot disables armor mode! the reason you drive for 30 minutes is because its a worldmap not eg crysis or stalker that you follow a path and enemies are waiting there to shoot them, now it makes not sense to place random mercs that attack in real life ion afric, no does it? you gotta drive for long just like gta, its africa not a fake level!

[QUOTE="thenewau25"]

5 stalker doesnt have fisr person vehicles , or that big worldmap, rivers the ability to sleep , in fact it copies boiling point which had those futures and also factions and nps and traders even eating and skills and weapon jam, so infact stalker copies boiling point!

i totally agree with all that , belive it!

Baranga

It was supposed to have all these, but THQ sent an evil dude to Ukraine that butchered the game in order to launch it.

Boiling Point is made by former Stalker developers, that left the company in 2003 (I think). So, BP copies Stalker's original design.

They are all great games, though. Can't wait for White Gold, Precursors and Far Cry 3!

For me, Far Cry 2 feels like a sandbox Soldier of Fortune.

The main disappoint for me is the combat seems quite weak. I spent ages trying to get the mouse aiming half decent, but it still feels like a console orientated port.

There are still some aspects that are good, but so far I feel that Crysis > Far Cry 2.

Does that classifiy me as a hater? :?

Tresca_

no but in terms of weapon based combat

far cry 2> crysis

cuz the combat with guns only is more proper!