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Because the State of Israel is forbidden in the Torah and is therefore against God.
Zionism is about having the State of Israel, but they are not Jews...cause it's forbidden in the Torah. Zionism is controlling the Western world as well. They have a strong influence on USA's foreign policy, and they control the media as well.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY
That is an old interview with the Shah of Iran. He was Western of course and had strong relations with the U.S., but he was kind of US's puppet. He was a terrible dictator, as he killed thousands opposed to him and the U.S. was behind all of this and they set him up as Shah...
Just so you know, U.S. set up Shah --> people hate Shah --> Iran Revolution --> Ruhollah Khomeini is Supreme Leader of Iran (Shia) --> Saddham fears Iran Revolution because there are Shias in Iraq that may riot --> Saddham attacks Iran (while U.S. fully supports it) --> we are now stuck in Iraq --> Iranians still hate us.
As you can see, the root cause of this violence in the middle-east today was indeed the U.S.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=agEeP4J-paI
Ok, after viewing that whole video, what words come to your mind, and what do you think about?
For me, I think about how Jews are of peace, and how zionism is the exact opposite. That is what I call a Muslim and a Jew in peace as brothers (Ahmed Bedier is in the video, he's part of the Islamic American Relations)
The People of the Book could live in peace, if it were not for the Ideal/Political clashes within the world.
And...that song in the video goes well. It's stuck in my head now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=agEeP4J-paI
Ok, after viewing that whole video, what words come to your mind, and what do you think about?
For me, I think about how Jews are of peace, and how zionism is the exact opposite. That is what I call a Muslim and a Jew in peace as brothers (Ahmed Bedier is in the video, he's part of the Islamic American Relations)
The "War on Terror" should be rename the "War of Ideals" since ideals of Western Democracy clash with ideals of Jihad-ism.
Isolate the Iranian Mullahs' Regime, and the Iranian People Will Do the Rest. The same strategy that Reagan used to libertrate Eastern Europe and end the Soveit Union.
Mr_Manikin52
We're talking about President Bush though.
[QUOTE="thotoz"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="thotoz"]What they blew up the World Trade Center for was for us to blow THEM up and then get THEM angry so they'd blow us up more and eventually we submit and finally there is a victory for all that is holy that emcompasses the entire world.[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]the ultimate folly of the bush administration was to lie to the American populace and to misinform them. Bush would tell you that Islamic fundamentalists, "hate freedom" "want to destroy the free world" "hate peace" "they are evil no gooders who love to scare folks" if you actually explained what the "terrorists" are about, and what they are fighting for, we could end up with allot less bloodshed. But alas, we are too human for our own good sometimes. quiglythegreat
Who cares about the 9/11 attack. Just because it's some people dead in the USA, doesn't mean you should attack Afghanistan and start a war over it.
MANY MORE people die in Africa,etc and other places in the world, which happens on a daily basis, but no one cares. Now just because the U.S. got attacked there's a big fuss about it.
Is USA, Israel,etc trying to show them who's boss? Only for that IGNORANCE they're making such a bigger conflict? Why don't they go into Africa and try "democracizing" or "fight terrorism" there? Cause Africa won't benefit them?
Just cause USA/Israel,etc are rich, doesn't mean that one life equals 1000 dead for the other side.
9/11 was a pretty big deal. Now, I hate it when people evoke it and stuff, but still, it was a big, big deal. People who were in New York at the time are still traumatized by it. It wouldn't surprise me if it killed thousands more just by making them start smoking again. The terrorists couldnt' do anything but win from this, except we killed a lot of them. Afghanistan had to happen for a lot of reasons and I don't think anyone's so against that. The Taliban was bad and they were way cool with bin Laden. That said, we should've taken out the Sudanese government even before the genocide starting happening because they also were al Queda's base for a while. That would've saved a few birds with one stone there. But no, America will not and should not help the world as it sees fit.Well I agree with that 9/11 was a big deal, more particularly cause it was thousands dead in a 1st world country, and of course USA is the most powerful country in the world.
However, when we went to Afghanistan, all of the innocent people in Afghanistan were suffering. They knew they would die anyways, whether by the Taliban or by us, so they would just go crazy and bomb themselves and take others with them.
We should have gone to the ROOT PROBLEM of why 9/11 happened. We need to go to the root problems, and the root problem was caused by the U.S., or the Soviets, or one of its allies.
No. Absolutely not. We needed to take out the Taliban and the only people who are resisting this are the Taliban. I don't get what you're saying. And what problems are there with us fundamentally? 'The fault lies not in the stars but in ourselves' is a quote I like, but usually don't really think holds that much water because not everyone's a goddamn Buddhist, but in this case, it absolutely does. Okay, people in another country make videos and music and movies that people in your country listen to. How the hell does this justify killing people? It doesn't. And the Taliban should never have been in there in the first place. Afghanistan was totally called for.You're not getting to the point.
We attacked Afghanistan because of a group of people, aka the Taliban... The afghanis never liked the Taliban, but since innocent Afghanis are dieing more terrorists are rising.
Man just think about...if we didn't attack afghanistan, there would be way less civilians killed. The Taliban wouldn't be able to recruit as many people, because they won't have a reason to (they can't say fight for self defence).
[QUOTE="thotoz"]Uh...yeah. Actually, it does mean we're going to react when we're attacked.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="thotoz"]Who cares about the 9/11 attack. Just because it's some people dead in the USA, doesn't mean you should attack Afghanistan and start a war over it.bt_the_great_78
If we react then why can't they react by sending suicide bombers and **** us up while bombing themselves too?Cause we rule the world? USA rules the world? An average USA life is worth 1000 muslims? wtf is this bull
Whoever planned 9/11 WANTED us to react so that they can make the conflict bigger. It's a FACT that there are WAY MORE terrorists now than there were before the USA stepped into Afghanistan. We're not winning, THEY'RE WINNING. We're doing everything they want us to do.
The USA however, is too dumb and ignorant to realize this.
I would imagine that if they didn't want to be attacked they shouldn't have made a massive terrorist attack on civilians. I only regret that the payback isn't a thousand fold.Who is "they"? All of the afghans/middle east? Just because of a group of people we are going to attack the whole country?
That is what caused the first two World Wars. Attacking a place because of something minor.
[QUOTE="thotoz"]What they blew up the World Trade Center for was for us to blow THEM up and then get THEM angry so they'd blow us up more and eventually we submit and finally there is a victory for all that is holy that emcompasses the entire world.[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="KrayzieJ"]the ultimate folly of the bush administration was to lie to the American populace and to misinform them. Bush would tell you that Islamic fundamentalists, "hate freedom" "want to destroy the free world" "hate peace" "they are evil no gooders who love to scare folks" if you actually explained what the "terrorists" are about, and what they are fighting for, we could end up with allot less bloodshed. But alas, we are too human for our own good sometimes. quiglythegreat
Who cares about the 9/11 attack. Just because it's some people dead in the USA, doesn't mean you should attack Afghanistan and start a war over it.
MANY MORE people die in Africa,etc and other places in the world, which happens on a daily basis, but no one cares. Now just because the U.S. got attacked there's a big fuss about it.
Is USA, Israel,etc trying to show them who's boss? Only for that IGNORANCE they're making such a bigger conflict? Why don't they go into Africa and try "democracizing" or "fight terrorism" there? Cause Africa won't benefit them?
Just cause USA/Israel,etc are rich, doesn't mean that one life equals 1000 dead for the other side.
9/11 was a pretty big deal. Now, I hate it when people evoke it and stuff, but still, it was a big, big deal. People who were in New York at the time are still traumatized by it. It wouldn't surprise me if it killed thousands more just by making them start smoking again. The terrorists couldnt' do anything but win from this, except we killed a lot of them. Afghanistan had to happen for a lot of reasons and I don't think anyone's so against that. The Taliban was bad and they were way cool with bin Laden. That said, we should've taken out the Sudanese government even before the genocide starting happening because they also were al Queda's base for a while. That would've saved a few birds with one stone there. But no, America will not and should not help the world as it sees fit.Well I agree with that 9/11 was a big deal, more particularly cause it was thousands dead in a 1st world country, and of course USA is the most powerful country in the world.
However, when we went to Afghanistan, all of the innocent people in Afghanistan were suffering. They knew they would die anyways, whether by the Taliban or by us, so they would just go crazy and bomb themselves and take others with them.
We should have gone to the ROOT PROBLEM of why 9/11 happened. We need to go to the root problems, and the root problem was caused by the U.S., or the Soviets, or one of its allies.
[QUOTE="thotoz"]Who cares about the 9/11 attack. Just because it's some people dead in the USA, doesn't mean you should attack Afghanistan and start a war over it.bt_the_great_78Uh...yeah. Actually, it does mean we're going to react when we're attacked.
If we react then why can't they react by sending suicide bombers and **** us up while bombing themselves too?Cause we rule the world? USA rules the world? An average USA life is worth 1000 muslims? wtf is this bull
Whoever planned 9/11 WANTED us to react so that they can make the conflict bigger. It's a FACT that there are WAY MORE terrorists now than there were before the USA stepped into Afghanistan. We're not winning, THEY'RE WINNING. We're doing everything they want us to do.
The USA however, is too dumb and ignorant to realize this.
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