Having better communication features doesnt make an online service more "hardcore" :lol:

I know this is SW, but in the real world people are vegin out on PSN just as they are on LIVE. Paying for LIVE does not make a gamer more hardcore and its not as if PSN users arent getting a quality gameplay experience as well. If the money spent on LIVE guaranteed dedicated servers for every game then things would be different, but as things are now, the quality of online play is on even ground.

As for the argument of libraries, once again, even ground. The ratio of harcore games to casual are roughly the same on each. They are like sister consoles and each one edges out the other in different respects, but at the end of the day its about even.

That said, I would look at like this in terms of most hardcore.

PC>>>360=PS3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii

Another comparrison with no superwhite, or RGB full enabled on the PS3. I wonder if this is GS staff trying to be fanboys, or if they are just ignorant to the settings on the PS3.

Regardless of that, most of those games do indeed look better on the 360, but not to the extremes that these comparisons show.

Having better communication features doesnt make an online service more "hardcore" :lol:

I know this is SW, but in the real world people are vegin out on PSN just as they are on LIVE. Paying for LIVE does not make a gamer more hardcore and its not as if PSN users arent getting a quality gameplay experience as well. If the money spent on LIVE guaranteed dedicated servers for every game then things would be different, but as things are now, the quality of online play is on even ground.

As for the argument of libraries, once again, even ground. The ratio of harcore games to casual are roughly the same on each. They are like sister consoles and each one edges out the other in different respects, but at the end of the day its about even.

That said, I would look at like this in terms of most hardcore.

PC>>>360=PS3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii

its really a tie for me.. you got asscreed, theres a reason i just wrote *** and on the right side you got the game that was hyped like hell, GTA4iamshivy

MGS4s story.

[spoilers]As a long time fan of the series I was very disapointed. Between the retconning of both plot points and character backgrounds, the way they tried explaining everything with nanomachines (even though they didnt explain in any depth the questions hardcore fans actually had), the needless death of characters along with the needless resurection of others, the way they Ruined Raiden and put a damper on Solid Snake as a character, needless interconnections like Madnar, Dr. Clarke = Para Medic, Sigint = Darpa Chief, Zero fighting for years to achieve The Bosses will even though he didnt actually give a damn about her, giving Johny more than a comical role, the wedding, the whole melodramadic emo feel of the game, the over cheesy moments even by MGS standards, and then the huge plot hole that basically made the entire game pointless...god I could really go on forever.[/spoilers]

I waited years for a finale just to get pimp slapped by Kojima. So yeah this is my disapointment of 08. Still my personal GOTY, but disapointing none the less.

And contrary to popular belief on these message boards, no, MGS4 was not a game for the fans. It was the exact opposite. If I didnt have knowledge of the previous stories MGS4 would have been much, much better to me. Thats why all the newcomers love MGS4 and claim it to be the best game of all time along with all the guys who played the other titles casualy. As for the hardcore fans that know the story inside out and have played each title over and over again, we got left out in the cold on this one.

[QUOTE="treelog82"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

trust me, jaffe really....realy really... REALLY doesnt care about your opinion, or any of ours for that matter haha

Mlauthemighty

Oh you care. You know you do :lol:

You're so right...the truth hurts!:cry:

Nah hes just a game designer. His opinion carries no more weight to me than any other gamer. Just like Itagaki. Imo he crafted the ultimate action game of all time NGB. Doesnt mean he isnt a douche bag self centered fanboy. Same goes for Cliffy B.

[QUOTE="akif22"]his argument started off well enough but then he turned immature, and the respect was gone he's as childish as the fanboys he was bashingRage010101

trust me, jaffe really....realy really... REALLY doesnt care about your opinion, or any of ours for that matter haha

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Persona
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Suikoden 1-2
Tales Series
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Valkyrie Profile
Vandal Hearts
Wipeout Series
Other Square games
Other Fighting games
Other JRPGs

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Xenogears
Vagrant Story
Front Mission
FF 7-9
FF Tactics
Tekken
Parasite Eve 1-2
Rsident Evil 1-3
MGS
Crash Bandicoot 1-3
Tales of Destiny
Star Ocean 2
Dino Crisis 1-2
Wild Arms
X-men vs. Street Fighter
Marvel vs. Capcom
Megaman Legends 1-2
Megaman X3-X6
Megaman 8
Chocobo dungeon
Ogre Battle
KoF
Toshinden
Ridge Racer
Blood Omen
Saga Frontier
Brave Fencer Musashi
Chrono Cross
Bust a Move
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Crash Tag Team Racing
Dead or Alive
Persona
Rival Schools
Gran Turismo
Suikoden 1-2
Tales Series
Twisted Metal Series
Valkyrie Profile
Vandal Hearts
Wipeout Series
Other Square games
Other Fighting games
Other JRPGs

Stomps N64 down the ground. Its not even a contest if you're a: JRPG, Fighters or Action Fan.

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